From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-yh0-x236.google.com (mail-yh0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c01::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1895C21F642 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 15:14:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yhan67 with SMTP id n67so85824874yha.3 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 15:14:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=sTzTrpQv+Fhxz68xIS+O7yOrifuJeBwyvdXh1ae1Cf0=; b=GHTiWHd2Nd+kGnC6H3+4sUpItOOdSny5sKo70LBkMIbCFl27WlSHlxt/j/alsDyOb9 TANozILCXZWPMhjhC+qXJyvFwaZeiF/R+w9NhFRCOla47ZTPC57oppQ+4/ciHx0/zEU5 p6AcIFYURQY6UVacuxQhzesNJNNcNX2Hcg6r9I7n8kVqRbqRKucH1XzlxJzdk4f86uXK INiKITDDc1US26qZJI48BfSNxlC6rztgtVJy/LmlaoGelVz3YKFQMI6WKzyV/IrSYW5L rTNwIzsQu/c2PfibxhRv02qe3tXuTDz31S5HlSBo5lOS/9FkChCxdSLB97okfP9hbQj7 KSeA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.170.38.214 with SMTP id 205mr18470423ykg.92.1434752094704; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 15:14:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.129.148.194 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 15:14:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 17:14:54 -0500 Message-ID: From: Benjamin Cronce To: Dave Taht Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1137acc0f219cc0518e64086 Cc: "aqm@ietf.org" , bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] tackling torrent on a 10mbit uplink (100mbit down) X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 22:15:25 -0000 --001a1137acc0f219cc0518e64086 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > 7) transmission ate a metric ton of cpu (30% on a i3) at these speeds. > > 8) My (cable) link actually is 140mbit down, 11 up. I did not much > care for asymmetric networks when the ratios were 6x1, so 13x1 is way > up there.... > > Anyway, 20% packet loss of the "right" packets was survivable. I will > subject myself to the same test on other fq or aqms. And, if I can > force myself to, with no aqm or fq. For SCIENCE! > > Attention, DMCA lawyers: Please send takedown notices to > bufferbloat-research@/dev/null.org . One of the things truly > astonishing about this is that in 12 hours in one night I downloaded > more stuff than I could ever watch (mp4) or listen to (even in flac > format) in several days of dedicated consumption. And it all just got > rm -rf'd. It occurs to me there is a human upper bound to how much > data one would ever want to consume, and we cracked that limit at > 20mbit, with only 4k+ video driving demand any harder. When we started > bufferbloat.net 20mbit downlinks were the best you could easily get. Linux ISOs are a great way to saturate your download. I have enough downloaded that while seeding, I can sustain over 10Mb/s, but don't expect to saturate your upload since they're already heavily seeded, but less so since I stopped recently. --001a1137acc0f219cc0518e64086 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

7) transmission= ate a metric ton of cpu (30% on a i3) at these speeds.
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> 8) My (cable) = link actually is 140mbit down, 11 up. I did not much
> care for asymmetric networks when the ratios were 6x1, so 13= x1 is way
> up there....
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> Anyway, 20= % packet loss of the "right" packets was survivable. I will
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> subject myself to the same test on other fq= or aqms. And, if I can
> force myself t= o, with no aqm or fq. For SCIENCE!
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> Attention, DMCA lawyers: Please se= nd takedown notices to
> bufferbloat-res= earch@/dev/null.org . One of the things tru= ly
> astonishing about this is that in 1= 2 hours in one night I downloaded
> more= stuff than I could ever watch (mp4) or listen to (even in flac
> format) in several days of dedicated consumption.= And it all just got
> rm -rf'd. It = occurs to me there is a human upper bound to how much
> data one would ever want to consume, and we cracked that li= mit at
> 20mbit, with only 4k+ video dri= ving demand any harder. When we started
>= ; bufferbloat.net 20mbit downlinks w= ere the best you could easily get.

Linux ISOs are a great way to saturate your do= wnload. I have enough downloaded that while seeding, I can sustain over 10M= b/s, but don't expect to saturate your upload since they're already= heavily seeded, but less so since I stopped recently.
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