From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-vn0-x22b.google.com (mail-vn0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c0f::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24F5921F1FB for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by vnbf7 with SMTP id f7so13091074vnb.13 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:07:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=DvYcwHg+On8YelrjPp/XZnciwxJOT9jam/+jE9byLRo=; b=T89GqgK0lhUhy8LfhiqqItkjdDqH85JHEH3G7WW8Z/uAnGa+RnExJsK1X8NRT3/Jt2 sRCUifj/SMcs28im3vdBB5lCPVeTWjchCa1VAPuxx0VdVX2UUrj8lUEGqD+AHxYJcix3 p7AekHeyRveiu1LSuhCDj3vms1wOTr+bDWZSLdnN/CON1V/R3HdK60Ra7+0ouQLL5raN rku/ImlKNFCud7SofAkyyEJjokadcuDDFt6Wt5X3JiEfEx+1/RKcVdvV62EqfQT4bql1 52f0C6wJ+Ot0uzCSzbXGcyLYBlGVAHP5zumqFsIGh2wnioRotBJDwah9JPOLPI3F6I74 nOXQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.89.174 with SMTP id bp14mr43830184vdb.58.1435270034745; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:07:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.12.167 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:07:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.12.167 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:07:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <81564C0D7D4D2A4B9A86C8C7404A13DA34B3230A@ESESSMB205.ericsson.se> References: <81564C0D7D4D2A4B9A86C8C7404A13DA34B30B4C@ESESSMB205.ericsson.se> <04ED8D23-53C3-4F12-9647-3A07FFB43352@tik.ee.ethz.ch> <81564C0D7D4D2A4B9A86C8C7404A13DA34B3230A@ESESSMB205.ericsson.se> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 01:07:14 +0300 Message-ID: From: Jonathan Morton To: Ingemar Johansson S Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307abdc993efb605195ed806 Cc: "cheshire@apple.com" , iccrg@irtf.org, "Bob Briscoe \(bob.briscoe@bt.com\)" , =?UTF-8?Q?Mirja_K=C3=BChlewind?= , "bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net" , "ietf@trammell.ch" Subject: Re: [Bloat] ECN issues X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:07:44 -0000 --20cf307abdc993efb605195ed806 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 It's enough of a non-issue for Apple to consider turning ECN on by default in their next OS releases. The subsequent sharp uptick in ECN traffic (since there's a lot of Apple devices out there) should help to eliminate the rest. It's also enough of a non-issue for me personally to turn ECN on by default on all my machines. Of course, I get particular benefit from doing so since I usually have cake running at my bottleneck. - Jonathan Morton --20cf307abdc993efb605195ed806 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8

It's enough of a non-issue for Apple to consider turning ECN on by default in their next OS releases. The subsequent sharp uptick in ECN traffic (since there's a lot of Apple devices out there) should help to eliminate the rest.

It's also enough of a non-issue for me personally to turn ECN on by default on all my machines. Of course, I get particular benefit from doing so since I usually have cake running at my bottleneck.

- Jonathan Morton

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