From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-yk0-x233.google.com (mail-yk0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c07::233]) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D4A93B2D6 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2016 16:10:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-yk0-x233.google.com with SMTP id x67so295277880ykd.2 for ; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 13:10:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=INKJN51sF5BsPGM1XK2ktDqj0lg5nukaMLLJQEPvVMs=; b=srAq3LWfoHMZH73prkqzd1BnDlDig2KOSLcexPI2Apvm7xGCPfk48T9284/KE2YwNb NDjEQ5aNpnLTNys9MU51aBegckFAzAjIrPwgZ7HjiEqoy8Nox3AFfOCXzKsf+vsIHiAP Y4ooQz8nmIpI/P9rL6L7zKufyooWfxLWYxHtlEm2UO4/eBlh+J4TvkfEWLcDW/cVpoTV dSKQk5TEOM4RGPRheqB5l7bso7a21jwaQ8JbRSqGAMjY9gHeneWzNntYCMTAzeXS9iqg Ii+AkcniBNEy/6ugo3pYWDg0CSrcgefwXm4vm5l97f8tHlK23tD+QDCwEfq9bVvcsJII E8SA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.129.154.82 with SMTP id r79mr73258191ywg.15.1452028201939; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 13:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.37.25.4 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jan 2016 13:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.37.25.4 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jan 2016 13:10:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20160105122703.516b54be@xeon-e3> References: <165DB6E9-A6DD-4626-B6AA-E1B2DBA0B5FA@gmail.com> <568C1209.5050403@taht.net> <20160105192930.GA7803@sesse.net> <568C1B5E.1070008@taht.net> <20160105122703.516b54be@xeon-e3> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 23:10:01 +0200 Message-ID: From: Jonathan Morton To: Stephen Hemminger Cc: bloat , =?UTF-8?Q?Dave_T=C3=A4ht?= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c0b8d142e3ac805289ca9de Subject: Re: [Bloat] Hardware upticks X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2016 21:10:03 -0000 --94eb2c0b8d142e3ac805289ca9de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Yes, Intel is the master of market segmentation here. I don't believe for a second that most of their best features just happen to have a high defect rate that warrants setting the kill bit on all the cheaper badges slapped on the common die. A few years ago, I got a killer deal from AMD. The Phenom II X2 555 BE. In the right motherboard, it would happily attempt to turn the two missing cores back on. If successful, you had a Phenom II X4 955 BE. And so I did. It's still a pretty nice beast - shame it's locked away in storage for the moment. Intel doesn't allow such nice tricks. They'd lose too much money from it. - Jonathan Morton --94eb2c0b8d142e3ac805289ca9de Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes, Intel is the master of market segmentation here.=C2=A0 = I don't believe for a second that most of their best features just happ= en to have a high defect rate that warrants setting the kill bit on all the= cheaper badges slapped on the common die.

A few years ago, I got a killer deal from AMD.=C2=A0 The Phe= nom II X2 555 BE.=C2=A0 In the right motherboard, it would happily attempt = to turn the two missing cores back on.=C2=A0 If successful, you had a Pheno= m II X4 955 BE.=C2=A0 And so I did.=C2=A0 It's still a pretty nice beas= t - shame it's locked away in storage for the moment.

Intel doesn't allow such nice tricks.=C2=A0 They'd l= ose too much money from it.

- Jonathan Morton

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