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From: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
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Or you are defining various terms in a way that makes no sense to us. Given
that you're obviously working with core rather than edge networks, that is
entirely possible.

- Jonathan Morton

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<p dir="ltr">Or you are defining various terms in a way that makes no sense to us. Given that you&#39;re obviously working with core rather than edge networks, that is entirely possible.</p>
<p dir="ltr"> - Jonathan Morton<br>
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