From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lb0-f179.google.com (mail-lb0-f179.google.com [209.85.217.179]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D85421F0E8 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 17:20:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-lb0-f179.google.com with SMTP id j14so2699482lbo.10 for ; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 17:20:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=1Eu13AICII5606Z0FeRrbNcmRx9K4NrW7Wo4SPJbKCY=; b=nviISd51I0ISjd/Y+6XwmIvyychQcDRyqET3uxnwCOZ5gROpAQGRWTyHAPvyAxmqSh KJMe8X3x3FV+7kVuNKeHU0mwvwTwc8irc1O0zr+AB27/+njCP6/ib0y+TbztDpXQcNDw vmUwRJbnfpmeBTtzEfLyZDe5SlYP4ZPhS/6ykluj9AJG20+a6u/0CR588NRingFBUesl TPgYKpUcaG0NK7ddbOVhAdvmssPipkL57c8k1BIK+QFxdsCJHU8napYxDqmMqXCn+Zhj NylqlLkwS2oL+pzwD48pRDnBspyBSMWjXg30LA7vGqLsOoB0qZmmkCvfxFEq1xE/VcW/ SbOQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=1Eu13AICII5606Z0FeRrbNcmRx9K4NrW7Wo4SPJbKCY=; b=UZWOuasYYNLkotN3U1FG+3Un3cYwxyYpW5IkDtyryQjvysmvFDaU58SxmVlIJ3FO3L Vfymgzp3fgJDyXfACMCH2yt8Ru01AKuaozHgIxloUxbyCTpJT47BfyLE0TeHRVzoX+6m w4DMSVi3OMdYkSDZHYsMvXDspjU6FQ+qClsRd8xVDqsU5Xi/p54NJBIrycm8J/bxOQYT m22IM0rMolxYZaiKtzx5LBC+Vi+PAkGUp0sN1vuxEuH/nxNeWeY8h23+bMdKLp5xQ2cy We45fb5U3Glk4I//i5V9qhg1u4y5s5EQxGAkzplU6PLw7Q0IiyB4fQJ028TGvWAdOayF 47Bg== X-Received: by 10.112.49.35 with SMTP id r3mr1495965lbn.95.1362187208611; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 17:20:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.7.138 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 17:19:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1362077224.256114355@apps.rackspace.com> References: <512F9DB5.60909@mti-systems.com> <1362077224.256114355@apps.rackspace.com> From: Yuchung Cheng Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 17:19:48 -0800 Message-ID: To: dpreed@reed.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlvxyskI3cPpshuQX6Ubjg5JhyTqlyw/KqusTJ7PGsOf9AlFw2dHYkoKcrvpA487qUziKSY2eOiXVDkJ1H21HHvz9LbJBUPZkHi0JxPsZM7r0T4IfW+VmE3aLY6FeaBTZ5dBoFvddc4hGF5eQqDsNQPPfuNKtXa6op3Ow9/XpCItzBCz8GONVrmGgXnVdBcnt7ZBdPcdon+cfpGPUWwfjYnfMqSeQ== Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] some good bloat related stuff on the ICCRG agenda, IETF #86 Tuesday, March 12 2013, 13:00-15:00, room Caribbean 6 X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2013 01:20:11 -0000 On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 10:47 AM, wrote: > A small suggestion. Instead of working on *algorithms*, focus on getting > something actually *deployed* to fix the very real issues that we have today > (preserving the option to upgrade later if need be). +1 and it applies to other parts of the Internet too. > > > > The folks who built the Internet (I was there, as you probably know) focused > on making stuff that worked and interoperated, not publishing papers or > RFCs. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Wesley Eddy" > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:11pm > To: "Dave Taht" > Cc: bloat-announce@lists.bufferbloat.net, "Martin Stiemerling" > , cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, "bloat" > > Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] some good bloat related stuff on the > ICCRG agenda, IETF #86 Tuesday, March 12 2013, 13:00-15:00, room Caribbean 6 > > On 2/28/2013 10:53 AM, Dave Taht wrote: >> >> For those that don't attend ietf meetings in person, there is usually >> live audio and jabber chat hooked up into the presentations. >> >> See y'all there, next month, in one form or another. >> > > > In the TSVAREA meeting, we've also set aside some time to talk > about AQM and whether there's interest and energy to do some > more specific work on AQM algs in the IETF (e.g. like CoDel and > PIE): > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/86/agenda/tsvarea > > I'm working with Martin on some slides to seed the discussion, > but we hope that it's mostly the community that we hear from, > following up in the higher-bandwidth face-to-face time from > the thread we had on the tsv-area@ietf.org mailing list a few > months ago. > > > -- > Wes Eddy > MTI Systems > _______________________________________________ > Cerowrt-devel mailing list > Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel > > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat >