From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-oi1-x22d.google.com (mail-oi1-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8CAB03B29E for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2023 14:25:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-oi1-x22d.google.com with SMTP id 5614622812f47-39a505b901dso4471357b6e.0 for ; Mon, 05 Jun 2023 11:25:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1685989558; x=1688581558; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=KKstXLawjTWaumQyGh71dt5BureTuuJcmWZEFWSKCSw=; b=f+Cbq3nzt1kmQFoejjjdg87cuRyRLQ5il0GmT7Ek4r4nbslS60KBMdyGHSsC6oVly2 8ep6C/BMk6xwzXzcUvhTmpan/SSmxoVGjPWBpE5Soh8JVkHz7QiJE59d3vBji9UVBM1t uXOGX4KSSOsN7Dw3Sk14oUhBzMOiswFz9DQ4WZI6CcRUGhHPAxEVnF9tCA5VqDOKjquk ZlpeGkuJ4mOnZy2DCzixB5jz1ukTRLF+NIZ4rqABiVZ1G8Ehf3BqALA8tjCOwzQIJQI7 DuQll2p74r34RfE6Ivod7zlugcT4CpOk4EZKJbk8s2QGb/T7b+Bp+Dg/eFcZblZfwv9C 7XLg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1685989558; x=1688581558; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=KKstXLawjTWaumQyGh71dt5BureTuuJcmWZEFWSKCSw=; b=EQXL5wYbiVwDAn+MwA3qdjN8lYNbih0g/b6U9GMWAQbK/1h92w5sAMBuNJW6/7tQVq DcRY/teAwMg0EYOV2Kg0V6fK9eAvkXZvCTodCzIpHjnRZvcDqw00hUxuCq7gXaLbqFmV 39GwHh0SiRQnmxgvjho2HpGXZGcZ6MIUOxsUWm5gAufLgk2pkt7KW54zqMZecoYOTTYB D5Rrj+NTAvqe4JOI2+OeEDhlKeBjg+0HnTulsrd2cbLjsruJf3Mv+djFCWa3t6v8unzV z5DlbgJ49K9bctnLiuBu1ZgQsxio/rLOSeeS4YkyCo7HfA0L8TkobgoiTovNJYYUpK/q Mt7w== X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDwy3ZWdRvuBUJtdqOxhDhmXBpdqXNXIwh+w5hhK8yiMxXT02bYn kRq8mtdHgsa72dUmNk8qTCKwH4bXKmHjPpvT0g4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACHHUZ6VT0z3yX79DK1VcRJXh0BJ8W7P59rciG5LFNHeME59D/RCSo35/9VgQMAV6/BA4P37vTiKWlU5cpZiz6jzQs8= X-Received: by 2002:aca:1705:0:b0:39c:40c0:703c with SMTP id j5-20020aca1705000000b0039c40c0703cmr501012oii.1.1685989557697; Mon, 05 Jun 2023 11:25:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <58238rpr-80q1-3p5s-849q-604ns5659s7r@ynat.uz> In-Reply-To: From: John D Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2023 19:25:47 +0100 Message-ID: To: "Luis A. Cornejo" Cc: David Lang , bloat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ae816205fd6608a8" Subject: Re: [Bloat] Dual WAN home router with decent SQM? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2023 18:25:58 -0000 --000000000000ae816205fd6608a8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My scenario is upgrading from DSL (35/8mbps) to StarLink (150/15mbps) so I really only need a failover - keep the DSL as it's cheap. My question though is how quickly will failover occur? I work over RDP & Teams all day and I'm unclear if failover should give me near seamless service, or kicks in after things already stopped working. (Ps: I'm unsure of etiquette on this list, should I reply all or reply back to the list only every time) On Mon, Jun 5, 2023, 17:06 Luis A. Cornejo wrote= : > I=E2=80=99ve done the multi wan with mwan3 and it works fine for load bal= ance or > failover. > > But if you are trying to improve your upload then the best you can get is > one upload vs the other. You won=E2=80=99t get both uploads to the same s= tream, > that is bonding, which is a little harder to do. > > -Luis > > On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 9:35 AM David Lang via Bloat < > bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > >> any router that you can run OpenWRT on will do the job >> look at the mwan3 package to mange the multiple ISPs >> >> at 100Mb, you don't need an especially beefy router. >> >> David Lang >> >> On Sun, 4 Jun 2023, John D >> via Bloat wrote: >> >> > Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2023 09:48:21 +0100 >> > From: John D via Bloat >> > Reply-To: John D >> > To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net >> > Subject: [Bloat] Dual WAN home router with decent SQM? >> > >> > I want to set up a new home router with SQM support to alleviate (most= ly >> > upload) bloat. >> > However I would also like dual ISP support, more for backup/failover >> than >> > load sharing. >> > I can see affordable multi wan "load balancer" routers eg TP-link, and >> > affordable SQM routers such as ubiquity Edgerouter, but I'm struggling >> to >> > find a single device providing both. >> > Just after any advice on a) am I better having two separate components >> b) >> > if so any suggestions which product/brand? >> > Two devices means more configuration but possibly more flexible and >> cheaper. >> > >> > My internet speed is looking to max out around 100/20mbps so I don't >> need >> > Gbit performance. Thanks for any help. >> >_______________________________________________ >> Bloat mailing list >> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat >> _______________________________________________ >> Bloat mailing list >> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat >> > --000000000000ae816205fd6608a8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My scenario is upgrading from DSL (35/8mbps) to StarLink = (150/15mbps) so I really only need a failover - keep the DSL as it's ch= eap.=C2=A0

My question though = is how quickly will failover occur? I work over RDP & Teams all day and= I'm unclear if failover should give me near seamless service, or kicks= in after things already stopped working.

=
(Ps: I'm unsure of etiquette on this list, should I r= eply all or reply back to the list only every time)

On Mon, Jun 5, 202= 3, 17:06 Luis A. Cornejo <lu= is.a.cornejo@gmail.com> wrote:
I=E2=80=99ve done the multi wan with mwan3 and it work= s fine for load balance or failover.

But if you are trying to improve your upload then the best you= can get is one upload vs the other. You won=E2=80=99t get both uploads to = the same stream, that is bonding, which is a little harder to do.

-Luis

On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at = 9:35 AM David Lang via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net&g= t; wrote:
any router that you can run OpenWRT on = will do the job
look at the mwan3 package to mange the multiple ISPs

at 100Mb, you don't need an especially beefy router.

David Lang

On Sun, 4 Jun 2023, John D
via Bloat wrote:

> Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2023 09:48:21 +0100
> From: John D via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>= ;
> Reply-To: John D <j.w.r.dexter@gmail.com>
> To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
> Subject: [Bloat] Dual WAN home router with decent SQM?
>
> I want to set up a new home router with SQM support to alleviate (most= ly
> upload) bloat.
> However I would also like dual ISP support, more for backup/failover t= han
> load sharing.
> I can see affordable multi wan "load balancer" routers eg TP= -link, and
> affordable SQM routers such as ubiquity Edgerouter, but I'm strugg= ling to
> find a single device providing both.
> Just after any advice on a) am I better having two separate components= b)
> if so any suggestions which product/brand?
> Two devices means more configuration but possibly more flexible and ch= eaper.
>
> My internet speed is looking to max out around 100/20mbps so I don'= ;t need
> Gbit performance. Thanks for any help.
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