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From: "Joel Wirāmu Pauling" <joel@aenertia.net>
To: Andrew Somerville <aesomerville@gmail.com>
Cc: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>,
	 cerowrt-devel <cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] android, sqm-autorate and lte and videoconferencing
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 09:41:09 +1200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKiAkGQRHUS4Qaotq2axt_rraAPV+Chh9+H0Qo0-CyS+fmYMoA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMUVRMbWfvi_LPJ8x07-w7AxmHdy2CiXpLqagLxsiCWzLU4h9g@mail.gmail.com>

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Whilst I understand it's not designed for High Bandwidth uplinks - how does
it scale to 1 to 10Gbit symmetrical (or near symmetrical) uplinks ?

One of the problems i've had with Cake is that it becomes CPU bound beyond
around 3 or 4 gigabit.

On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 at 07:41, Andrew Somerville <aesomerville@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Thank you very much for the introduction Sebastian.
>
> To give some context, my wife and I relocated to the Scottish Highlands
> and now rely upon a 4G LTE connection for work and personal use through
> Vodafone UK. I have spent quite a lot of time working on this autorate
> problem and have tried to leverage Sebastian's expertise in this field as
> much as possible. I have tried to keep it as simple as possible with some
> rationale and objective criticism behind the major logic. I value feedback
> and criticism.
>
> I now use the bash implementation in my main branch on my RT3200 router as
> a service 24/7. I have rewritten it a few times and will do so again, or
> switch to another better approach if available. There have been a few ports
> of some of the earlier versions like this Golang version (
> https://github.com/notsure2/cake-autorate).
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Andrew
>
>
> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 at 22:42, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> it's looking promising.
>>
>> in trying to get an android to do better this recent ML paper crossed my
>> desk:
>>
>> https://arxiv.org/pdf/2007.02735.pdf
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 1:38 PM Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear Dave, dear all
>> >
>> > please, let me introduce Andrew to this list, who is the driving force
>> behind CAKE-autorate's design and implementation (which started from a more
>> theoretical discussion in the OpenWrt forum before turning into something
>> tangible). There are other alternative approaches for the rate-tracking
>> problem many discussed in this longish forum thread:
>> https://forum.openwrt.org/t/cake-w-adaptive-bandwidth/108848 (which is
>> great as this occasionally leads to quite interesting discussion about how
>> the different teams tackle common issues) but Andrew's autorate appears to
>> the fastest moving with low software requirements (every router should run
>> bash anyway ;) ).
>> >
>> > Kind Regards
>> >         Sebastian
>> >
>> >
>> > > On Apr 6, 2022, at 17:43, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > For the past several days,  I have been very successfully using
>> > > variants of the cake-autorate code to manage my connections on the
>> > > boat, for which I use a tether to my laptop.
>> > >
>> > > https://github.com/lynxthecat/CAKE-autorate
>> > >
>> > > Although this test claims my link was inadequate for a good
>> videoconference
>> > >
>> > >
>> https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat?test-id=964831e5-30f9-4695-bfbd-b58da0a759f3
>> > >
>> > > they have all been perfect (and that test was conducted during an
>> > > actual zoom conference). The code does not grab as much bandwidth as
>> > > it could, when available, but I'll settle for perfect
>> > > videoconferencing.
>> > >
>> > > Anyway... what I used to do was attach the phone to a router shared
>> > > boat-wide that did this stuff, but it would be nice to move the
>> > > algorithm directly into an android. My hope is that more modern
>> > > androids are running a recent enough kernel(?) to have cake, but it's
>> > > been a long time since I built anything for android, and am wondering
>> > > if there is a lte/5g tablet or phone or dedicated lte router "out
>> > > there" that can be hacked on?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > I tried to build a better future, a few times:
>> > > https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org
>> > >
>> > > Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > Cerowrt-devel mailing list
>> > > Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> I tried to build a better future, a few times:
>> https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org
>>
>> Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
>>
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-15 21:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-06 15:43 [Bloat] " Dave Taht
2022-04-06 20:38 ` [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] " Sebastian Moeller
2022-04-06 21:42   ` Dave Taht
2022-04-07  8:37     ` Andrew Somerville
2022-04-15 21:41       ` Joel Wirāmu Pauling [this message]
2022-04-17  5:27         ` Luis A. Cornejo
2022-04-20 10:29           ` Andrew Somerville

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