Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] DC behaviors today

["Joel Wirāmu Pauling" <joel@aenertia.net>]

I'm not going to pretend that 1Gig isn't enough for most people. But I
refuse to believe it's the networks equivalent of a 10A power (20A
depending on where you live in the world) AC residential phase
distribution circuit.

This isn't a question about what people need, it's more about what the
market can deliver. 10GPON (GPON-X) and others now make it a viable
service that can and is being deployed in residential and commercial
access networks.

3 years ago delivering an access network Capable of anything beyond
2.5Gbit was pretty much a Business case non-starter.

The problem is now that Retail Servicer Provider X can deliver a post
Gigabit service... what is capable of taking it off the ONU/CMNT point
in the home? As usual it's a follow the money question, once RSP's can
deliver Gbit+ they will need an ecosystem in the home to feed into it,
and right now there isn't a good technology platform that supports it;
10GBase-X/10GBaseT is a non-starter due to the variability in home
wiring - arguably the 7 year leap from 100-1000mbit was easy It's mean
a gap of 12 years and counting for the same.. it's not just the NIC's
and CPU's in the gateways it's the connector and in-home wiring
problems as well.


Blatant Plug - request :
I'm interested to hear opinions on this as I have a talk on this very
topic 'The long and Winding Road to 10Gbit+ in the home'
https://linux.conf.au/ at Linuxconf in January. In particular if you
have any home network gore/horror stories and photos you would be
happy for me to include in my talk, please include.


-Joel
on the tweeters: @aenertia


On 4 December 2017 at 22:13, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Dec 2017, Dave Taht wrote:
>
>> What Jesper's been working on for ages has been to try and get linux's PPS
>> up for small packets, which last I heard was hovering at about 4Gbits.
>
>
> You might want to look into what the VPP (https://fd.io/) peeps are doing.
> They can at least forward packets at pretty impressive rates. 200Mpps zero
> frame loss with 2M FIB, limited to NIC and PCIe, not CPU (on many-core
> machine).
>
>> I have never thought there was much of a market for gbit to or from the
>> home. 40Mbits is enough for nearly everybody until > 4k video with
>> smellovision and tactile feedback become a standard.
>
>
> I'd say the sweet spot right now is in the 100-250 megabit/s range,
> considering "cost of production" and "what do people need/use". This means
> it still can be done on 1 gigabit/s access links.
>
> Anything faster than 1GE is going to be significantly more expensive than
> 1GE because 1GE is "good enough for most" when it comes to hundreds of
> millions of households for their inter/intra home need. Also for SME use,
> 1GE is good enough for a lot of use cases.
>
> I personally now have 250/50 which is good enough for me, and I don't want
> to pay 2x my current MRC to get 1000/100. However, if I had to downgrade to
> 30 megabit/s I would most certinaly notice it, and in my market that would
> just be a 20-30% saving which definitely isn't worth it.
>
> --
> Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se
>
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