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From: Aaron Wood <woody77@gmail.com>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] pie aqm finally landed in Linux
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 19:56:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALQXh-O6MTJRckrrLeHH_FZZOs1+mjMQUPSJeCM0EF0vXa_QFA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw4K7-cjxcXt+PWqXe5BMp+Fe8LL=RqyZqhLnL=ASViyLg@mail.gmail.com>

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I'm definitely interested in seeing if the new pie implementation fares
better than what I was seeing on 3.10.24-8.

-Aaron


On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:

> http://www.spinics.net/lists/netdev/msg264935.html
>
> Hat off to vijay and the pie folk at cisco who shepherded the code
> through 5 releases to get it upstream!
>
> PIE is now mandated in DOCSIS3.1 cablemodems and the ECO for DOCSIS
> 3.0 went out a while ago.
>
> I think the mandate differs from the Linux implementation. I don't
> know the size of the recomended cablelabs target nor the size of the
> estimation window (?)).
>
> So that will improve going-upstream buffering problems dramatically.
>
> The linux implementation supports ECN, the DOCSIS standard does not.
> The ECN work in pie has some minor problems that fq_codel doesn't
> have, we hope to discuss at ietf...
>
> I will fold the v5 implementation of pie into cerowrt in the next release
> and
> see what happens.
>
> NOW:
>
> The biggest problem remaining in cable is fixing excessive downstream
> buffering. Surely something can be done to remove the 1.6 seconds of
> buffering I observed yesterday (at some level without needing to AQM?
> Some workaround that operators can use?). Some benchmarks I ran last
> night (not against pie):
>
> http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~d/bev/comcast_native_ipv6/
>
> I sure hope the gpon, lte, and wifi folk are paying attention.
>
> --
> Dave Täht
>
> Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt:
> http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.html
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-20 18:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-20 15:46 Dave Taht
2014-01-20 18:56 ` Aaron Wood [this message]
2014-01-21 23:55 ` Greg White
2014-01-22  0:16 ` Juliusz Chroboczek

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