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From: Aaron Wood <woody77@gmail.com>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: bcronce@gmail.com, bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] first bufferbloat free cablemodem?
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 11:14:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALQXh-OipLJEfJvQtevCF7mszMzJUoXdy-HXQNZUH19QXVp=3w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw7n4WjJbBqqyF=zSTSHmkHWmMsZVG5p1a3BiO-e=3Jb6g@mail.gmail.com>

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Maybe he's on a DOCSIS 3.1 headend that's also using pie?  Pie doesn't need
to know the outbound rate, correct?  as it's meant to be driven by the
RTS/CTS type behavior that the upstream traffic on cable has (the correct
terms for cable aren't coming to mind at the moment).

On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 9:07 AM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 8:41 AM Benjamin Cronce <bcronce@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Quote from the link
> > "With 24 download and 8 upload channels, the Arris can get download
> speeds of up to a gigabit if your plan offers it. I'm too cheap for that
> experience right now, but its nice to have it as a possible option for the
> future. Now for the pleasant surprise. With my previous modem/router combo,
> I usually got D's and F's on the DSLreports.com speedtest which also
> measures bufferbloat. With the Arris, I consitently get A's and only an
> occasional B. Why should you care? Bufferbloat is high latency (or lag)
> that occurs when there's other traffic on your network. It can adversely
> affect streaming performance. Geeks have spent years developing router
> firmwares to combat it. I adjusted nothing and tweaked no settings to get
> these results. This benefit is not touted in any of the specs, but the test
> results speak for themselves. "
>
> Except that he didn't actually post those results. Certainly I expect
> pie, but I was praying also for inbound shaping.
>
> > On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 3:10 AM Jan Ceuleers <jan.ceuleers@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 06/10/18 05:14, Dave Taht wrote:
> >> > I would so love for the review on this to be true.
> >> >
> >> >
> https://express.google.com/product/Arris-SURFboard-Cable-Modem-and-AC2350-Wi-Fi-Router-with-Arris-Secure-Home-Internet-by-McAfee/0_17937886568302066345_0
> >> >
> >>
> >> Could you post a link that can be viewed from outside the US?
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>
>
> --
>
> Dave Täht
> CTO, TekLibre, LLC
> http://www.teklibre.com
> Tel: 1-831-205-9740
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-07 18:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-06  3:14 Dave Taht
2018-10-06  8:10 ` Jan Ceuleers
2018-10-06 15:41   ` Benjamin Cronce
2018-10-06 16:07     ` Dave Taht
2018-10-07 18:14       ` Aaron Wood [this message]
2018-10-08  3:36         ` Mikael Abrahamsson

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