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From: Aaron Wood <woody77@gmail.com>
To: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
Cc: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>, bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] 22 seconds til bloat on gfiber?
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 12:45:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALQXh-OyKRVP08XdGQ50aQpxC+=2yLR4EY12c7yRPcnRRFk0KQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1610271228110.4123@nftneq.ynat.uz>

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On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 12:30 PM, David Lang <david@lang.hm> wrote:

> On Thu, 27 Oct 2016, Dave Taht wrote:
>
>>
>> I am increasingly convinced that without a killer application that
>> requires it,
>> we've hit "peak bandwidth".
>>
>
> You sound like my College Professor from the early 90's who said that the
> networks were now going to be so fast that there was no way that users
> would need all the available bandwidth, and that it was up to the students
> in the class to invent new uses :-)
>
> Then the web happened.
>
> any declaration of 'peak bandwidth' is only a temporary state.


I thought 1080p was going to be close to the high-water-mark for video
bandwidth needed, and then 4K came out, and now I'm seeing 8K cameras from
RED.  Although we're deep into diminishing returns on video, I'm sure there
will be other applications...  I know that even with ~150Mbps service, I'm
routinely at that limit, and wanting more.  But I want upload more than I
want download.  12Mbps is peanuts.  I think as we get more cloud
photo/video stuff happening, there will be a push for faster upload speeds
(mostly for backups and pushing to the cloud).  100 DSLR images (24MP,
losslessly compressed) take about 30 minutes to upload at 12Mbps...

12Mbps is only 5.4GB/hour...  I'd love to have 150Mbps synchronous.

-Aaron

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-10-27 19:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-22 21:56 Dave Taht
2016-10-22 23:52 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-10-23  1:33   ` jb
2016-10-23  1:45     ` Dave Taht
2016-10-23  1:47       ` Dave Taht
2016-10-23  2:27         ` jb
     [not found]           ` <CAJq5cE3DsV9v6ATVeq+vF_kVFjKy+8Qjwe-P01ZZbyKZB9HC6w@mail.gmail.com>
2016-10-23  8:29             ` Jonathan Morton
2016-10-23  9:23               ` jb
2016-10-23 16:14                 ` Klatsky, Carl
2016-10-24  0:46                   ` jb
2016-10-24 13:13                     ` Klatsky, Carl
2016-10-24 16:11                       ` Noah Causin
2016-10-24 20:27                         ` Klatsky, Carl
2016-10-23  2:30         ` Benjamin Cronce
2016-10-25  7:10   ` Jonas Mårtensson
2016-10-23  5:50 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2016-10-24 16:57   ` Jonas Mårtensson
2016-10-24 22:10     ` Benjamin Cronce
2016-10-25  0:09       ` jb
2016-10-25 12:01         ` Benjamin Cronce
2016-10-25 13:11         ` Klatsky, Carl
2016-10-25 21:20           ` jb
2016-10-26  0:02             ` Klatsky, Carl
2016-10-25 15:59       ` Jan Ceuleers
2016-10-26  1:05         ` Benjamin Cronce
2016-10-26 14:49           ` Jan Ceuleers
2016-10-26 15:36             ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2016-10-27 14:32               ` Jonas Mårtensson
2016-10-27 16:56                 ` Dave Taht
2016-10-27 17:56                   ` [Bloat] Sidebar on s-curves David Collier-Brown
2016-10-27 19:30                   ` [Bloat] 22 seconds til bloat on gfiber? David Lang
2016-10-27 19:41                     ` Dave Taht
2016-10-27 19:48                       ` Aaron Wood
2016-10-28 15:51                         ` Jan Ceuleers
2016-10-28 15:55                           ` Klatsky, Carl
2016-10-27 19:45                     ` Aaron Wood [this message]
2016-10-27 20:17                   ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2016-12-07  5:40                     ` Jonathan Morton
2016-12-07  7:05                       ` Mikael Abrahamsson
     [not found] <mailman.313.1477591111.3555.bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2016-10-27 19:27 ` Jonathan Foulkes

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