* [Bloat] Robert X. Cringley: Wi-Fi 6 & Bufferbloat
@ 2021-02-08 13:43 Rich Brown
2021-02-08 15:08 ` Michael Yartys
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From: Rich Brown @ 2021-02-08 13:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bloat
Once again, Cringely waves the bufferbloat flag...
https://betanews.com/2021/02/05/wi-fi-6-is-a-bust-bufferbloat/
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* Re: [Bloat] Robert X. Cringley: Wi-Fi 6 & Bufferbloat
2021-02-08 13:43 [Bloat] Robert X. Cringley: Wi-Fi 6 & Bufferbloat Rich Brown
@ 2021-02-08 15:08 ` Michael Yartys
2021-02-08 17:49 ` Aaron Wood
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From: Michael Yartys @ 2021-02-08 15:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rich Brown; +Cc: bloat
This is from the article: "Google Wi-Fi, and especially Nest, are terrible."
I thought Google was one of the companies that really cared about this issue in their router products, at least the mesh stuff.
Michael
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On Monday, February 8th, 2021 at 14:43, Rich Brown <richb.hanover@gmail.com> wrote:
> Once again, Cringely waves the bufferbloat flag...
>
> https://betanews.com/2021/02/05/wi-fi-6-is-a-bust-bufferbloat/
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> Bloat mailing list
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> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
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> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
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* Re: [Bloat] Robert X. Cringley: Wi-Fi 6 & Bufferbloat
2021-02-08 15:08 ` Michael Yartys
@ 2021-02-08 17:49 ` Aaron Wood
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From: Aaron Wood @ 2021-02-08 17:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michael Yartys; +Cc: Rich Brown, bloat
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I'm continually frustrated that my cable headend appears to be using DOCSIS
3.1 for downstream, and 3.0 for upstream. Which means my Arris SB8200
isn't using PIE, but the standard FIFO (Gigabit down, 35Mbps up).
Cake to the rescue. With a celeron based router (x86-64), I'm hitting
line-rate with cake on ingress. But it's all necessary to get things to
where they should be from Comcast. I was hoping that the upgrade a to
DOCSIS 3.1 modem would get them to provision it for PIE, but apparently not.
My understanding is that all the Google Wifi units have airtime fairness
and fq_codel. But that doesn't help if the ISP is bloated. It sounds like
Eero may be using HTB / Cake?
On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 7:08 AM Michael Yartys via Bloat <
bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> This is from the article: "Google Wi-Fi, and especially Nest, are
> terrible."
>
> I thought Google was one of the companies that really cared about this
> issue in their router products, at least the mesh stuff.
>
> Michael
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>
> On Monday, February 8th, 2021 at 14:43, Rich Brown <
> richb.hanover@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Once again, Cringely waves the bufferbloat flag...
> >
> > https://betanews.com/2021/02/05/wi-fi-6-is-a-bust-bufferbloat/
> >
> > Bloat mailing list
> >
> > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
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> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
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