From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-vk0-x243.google.com (mail-vk0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 591523B2AE for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2016 16:35:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-vk0-x243.google.com with SMTP id z126so3233808vkd.0 for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2016 13:35:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=n5O0p1KSvo4ScI1g+06WlBjw8860NomkCBH4Y9lusW0=; b=z3BIKgM0mUvP5AVufSXOTkw4wXoceVR3UZ3UsyKPzq9UZVe0yQDvbR3au+VJszr0ZM yWt4WtcnhBS/IuxZwDWU4PugzuPjJbZjfJDm3KyuGocUiYSFUJNJQ8qmUFGP9ezFiddr rFqZ3LXEBiUyk/3CeS2xan06vxXnRVV9HYUjQkEN5l/hlZJimSbbrbxyDUVM/DQrMcbt 5cwTm0vpDpEdZEIL6d/Zv5rKc4OH2+rnLsLFIMgHNOJhE0MZvZBP+3QhPsV10nHM0TTr x6ww5jPfv1nCVOyfqoSa0hRjaCm6UEnNf5/j1dYkPUWYwv9LqCjrLM0TM7VI+tEPl4On Q0kA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=n5O0p1KSvo4ScI1g+06WlBjw8860NomkCBH4Y9lusW0=; b=G6xLdznO+XgbHAyGq4NBDHpu28vixciY63A1fXbKmPRfXKsdsuGWjP2Bg+vaur7FCS A0HZafZAo++MZ+MgGfwkz3huRK4KdXTH8WlPBQW1BM6nGUm5I74aiKee0CKKjNCR9gRF 4xQEzzCWF+PKUhIZ+w1CCU22PdZXaZjH2V2wcxPu+2dbXU3/IcuiW9VCQ1EuZtQw6NaG SHa6bDKqJuHvlOQKDFqarKnn+TtLxatdD7e+oDdo2g3xTBKgfy+aIdkruZ1TN1MPGRyJ 4eU4uv+aO5ik7nhhi5yUs9xH/9tNODXrBdRweXDKnRg/vkHO5cCKM/CEmzQzQsuVTA93 erRQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9Rmh5kA4SquOPzVYetBq4NXFaY3K6IIy0ewPOWjFZpxRgbpyneZxLtx9xOMc3GN5B8HvSqjM24UXO5vxVw== X-Received: by 10.31.196.131 with SMTP id u125mr2941005vkf.83.1475181343846; Thu, 29 Sep 2016 13:35:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.117.214 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Sep 2016 13:35:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20160916211120.GA38308@sesse.net> From: Aaron Wood Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 13:35:42 -0700 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Dave_T=C3=A4ht?= Cc: bloat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114bcfc2fab761053dab6b19 Subject: Re: [Bloat] "BBR" TCP patches submitted to linux kernel X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 20:35:44 -0000 --001a114bcfc2fab761053dab6b19 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Dave T=C3=A4ht wrote: > > > On 9/29/16 4:24 AM, M=C3=A1rio S=C3=A9rgio Fujikawa Ferreira wrote: > > Is there a mailing list I can lurk in to follow on the development? > > > > I'm most interested on a delta to apply to Android 6.x Franco Kernel > > (https://github.com/franciscofranco/angler) > > Android is still shipping linux 3.10? How... quaint. > While you think 3.10 is old, in my experience it's still seen as cutting edge by many. RHEL is still only at 3.10. And routers are using much older 3.x kernels. There's a huge lag between what the "enterprise" crowd is running in production, and what you guys are developing on. Because "stability". It's been one of my major frustrations (especially on the embedded side where 3.x kernels are still considered 'new' and 2.6.x is 'trusted'). -Aaron --001a114bcfc2fab761053dab6b19 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Dave T=C3=A4ht <dave@taht.n= et> wrote:


On 9/29/16 4:24 AM, M=C3=A1rio S=C3=A9rgio Fujikawa Ferreira wrote:
> Is there a mailing list I can lurk in to follow on the development? >
> I'm most interested on a delta to apply to Android 6.x Franco Kern= el
> (https://github.com/franciscofranco/angler)
Android is still shipping linux 3.10? How... quaint.

While you think 3.10 is old, in my experience it's= still seen as cutting edge by many.=C2=A0 RHEL is still only at 3.10.=C2= =A0 And routers are using much older 3.x kernels.=C2=A0 There's a huge = lag between what the "enterprise" crowd is running in production,= and what you guys are developing on.=C2=A0 Because "stability".<= /div>

It's been one of my major frustrations (especi= ally on the embedded side where 3.x kernels are still considered 'new&#= 39; and 2.6.x is 'trusted').

-Aaron
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