From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qc0-x229.google.com (mail-qc0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9492721F14C; Sun, 1 Mar 2015 16:56:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by qcwb13 with SMTP id b13so22302923qcw.7; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 16:56:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=cLX7aNnfND9HRypwvn32xIfBHeXRJ5pEPXv1C6waMGk=; b=F/xvPCWvRMuFSw7ZITJ1sn8XW8ijSn/WlHgqblHtNxS2L+49GHxcc5Zk100ifazsiv WV4P2Muffaznv21inbG3Nyx6r5eA5fRwLM34MIIiPDleZVfvcngM7/W9oxUy72Yn1cvv SayNiP+u50w271MbZdo1utB9brvLrbDptZtOr6TcWLwQdUPjUOb/TX6BAZlcdcvq/lYt jAQT+2O5hddNzZUQabaifGdgKSPy2+QYGPmGQxnfVc0koPxyLHwoafoeqxqHoGD5lEe/ xxNvHTdx2W9jP4cemSykUSwz8nR27HrEdda7JjEfzpa71w+mzpxmjOkHuF33+loc5+x1 H/5g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.16.99 with SMTP id 90mr14240460qga.105.1425257801157; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 16:56:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.197.100 with HTTP; Sun, 1 Mar 2015 16:56:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2015 16:56:40 -0800 Message-ID: From: Aaron Wood To: Dave Taht Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c067a0f3931b051043b0dc Cc: "aqm@ietf.org" , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" , bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] Bufferbloat and the policy debate on packet loss in nanog X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2015 00:57:10 -0000 --001a11c067a0f3931b051043b0dc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable But until the silicon vendors update _their_ forks of OpenWRT, commercially available home routers won't have these benefits. Because the home router market is dominated by packaged reference designs from one of a very small number of companies that actually make all the chipsets (Dave, I know you know this, I'm mostly just choir-preaching myself). -Aaron On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > There's nothing new here, but it was a nice rant to get out of my system: > > http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.operators.nanog/128201 > > Of late, I have been taking a page from Linus Torvalds' playbook, in > realizing that "on the internet, no-one can hear you being subtle", > and BOY, am I done with that. > > -- > Dave T=C3=A4ht > Let's make wifi fast, less jittery and reliable again! > > https://plus.google.com/u/0/107942175615993706558/posts/TVX3o84jjmb > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > --001a11c067a0f3931b051043b0dc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
But until the silicon vendors update _their_ forks of Open= WRT, commercially available home routers won't have these benefits.=C2= =A0 Because the home router market is dominated by packaged reference desig= ns from one of a very small number of companies that actually make all the = chipsets (Dave, I know you know this, I'm mostly just choir-preaching m= yself).

-Aaron
On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Dave Taht <d= ave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
= There's nothing new here, but it was a nice rant to get out of my syste= m:

http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.operators.nanog/128201<= /a>

Of late, I have been taking a page from Linus Torvalds' playbook, in realizing that "on the internet, no-one can hear you being subtle"= ;,
and BOY, am I done with that.

--
Dave T=C3=A4ht
Let's make wifi fast, less jittery and reliable again!

https://plus.google.com/u/0/107942175615993706558/po= sts/TVX3o84jjmb
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