From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io1-xd2f.google.com (mail-io1-xd2f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F2753CB38 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2021 16:18:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-io1-xd2f.google.com with SMTP id f11so3889747ioj.3 for ; Wed, 04 Aug 2021 13:18:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nathan.io; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=PtaFE7yRc/ZR0qCgEka5R04N5Zzvj9NN5m+z/M9Q0f0=; b=Da9zpWVxmKSZ6HHWXBxlKyi8OTMSpzzRxEGEOVWWRE++UnRPNoJi1oqCsEOjHCI5oU lpVEkkgqsEvEnTxPqN2+jhpcNobYlAth8/ZyQhniFu/k7zISVCXtbDsPBGvyyLs986bb 8gU1wLvT4p3sM7x6kzisF/1gAwVuj94us4MtfVbDSK37srpJkH9Qi3VYimhEeCBT5c35 9W53dpG144+bJ7oWltV1McJKHgCTrWuOO8iPRIAuG/nw16gty2qGJuP9M/uF01KLFf4o rH1pkPsWdKzXFm9PS6ooxNrczDtQacJtkXKFz9muKWlnO+cNbUoKuXl/1zSadSkFC7s6 aeig== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=PtaFE7yRc/ZR0qCgEka5R04N5Zzvj9NN5m+z/M9Q0f0=; b=W7volff9XZHfwj0qPqLeanVp5CxUapzm7bW681b9e2sR5SW1jkeNYrnWgzb8DUjGs9 F+dxMg9EK5aQr416fk05d/nnblls1q7aaKztA7YXvhYylNnosK7bVMiMQ6pdBerme+Xw a+aE2HdF3Rvy5QVQkAaDPtkYOlh1xV8apq0CjMneBpdN0KgjFEKLfvMnmAR6fdM3T8XQ mWvAlDjJZSXinIFnz+VP6kuEYyTaLKcNH1FFgUkIHilC/l2uL4JTWEQhGcBq9Icga1+F 7muPEghTlMqSjIssVuhR1qNPPqfnVjFkLO5MFiv4jJMwTJNpNw13JPe9FjTJP4oSS6gC cyBQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533NeRV4JDanNnfxvUQUvn8mz+M8IcL7tIW4Dv38VRtUFvZkGSRJ Icw5BB/9sFgKMg/kOcBe4KkigyhNoBtImuXzOIc6eg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwAKXmiSC+fmr1XOhNM3eCrUmiHlFZ+XaEdbiBEdFXW+wANPsSq4hDOkJFBwqoUog+iYxF/G2JsUAOJBckGw6M= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:e602:: with SMTP id g2mr64515ioh.50.1628108328492; Wed, 04 Aug 2021 13:18:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <058681B8-89EB-42ED-8E82-4048BA3C9504@cable.comcast.com> <649DC4B024D74B8BA6926ABFCD52DC79@SRA6> <5C65BC6E-1ABD-4432-B2CE-AC8BACDA363D@gmx.de> <87wnp1kqoj.wl-jch@irif.fr> In-Reply-To: From: Nathan Owens Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 13:18:37 -0700 Message-ID: To: Jonathan Bennett Cc: Jonathan Morton , starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net, Sebastian Moeller , Mikael Abrahamsson via Bloat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000093722705c8c1822f" Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] Of interest: Comcast AQM Paper X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2021 20:18:49 -0000 --00000000000093722705c8c1822f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Isn't that what CZnic has done with the Turris router? https://www.turris.com/en/mox/overview/ On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 1:08 PM Jonathan Bennett < jonathanbennett@hackaday.com> wrote: > > > >> >> >> The Compute Module 4 exposes the same integrated Ethernet port, and a >> PCIe lane in place of the USB 3 chipset (the latter being attached to >> the former in the standard Pi 4B). This obviously allows attaching at >> least one real GigE port (with a free choice of PCIe-based chipset) at >> full line rate, without the intermediate step of USB. I think it >> would be reasonable to include a small Ethernet switch downstream of >> this, matching the connectivity of typical CPE on the LAN side. If a >> PCIe switch is inserted, then a choice of Mini-PCIe Wifi cards can be >> installed, with cables running to the normal array of external >> antennae, sidestepping the problem of USB Wifi dongles. >> > > I would hype the heck out of a router-style carrier board. I'd even buy a > bunch myself, for that matter. I used to make good money by putting OpenWRT > on cheap routers for small businesses. > > I've had good success chatting with Eben about Hackaday articles. If this > were to become more than a pipe dream, we could reach out to him, to see if > the Pi Foundation had any interest in backing a Pi router carrier board > that beats bufferbloat. > > --Jonathan Bennett > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > --00000000000093722705c8c1822f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Isn't that what CZnic has done with the Turris ro= uter?


On Wed, Aug 4= , 2021 at 1:08 PM Jonathan Bennett <jonathanbennett@hackaday.com> wrote:
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The Compute Module 4 exposes the same integrated Ethernet port, and a
PCIe lane in place of the USB 3 chipset (the latter being attached to
the former in the standard Pi 4B).=C2=A0 This obviously allows attaching at=
least one real GigE port (with a free choice of PCIe-based chipset) at
full line rate, without the intermediate step of USB.=C2=A0 I think it
would be reasonable to include a small Ethernet switch downstream of
this, matching the connectivity of typical CPE on the LAN side.=C2=A0 If a<= br> PCIe switch is inserted, then a choice of Mini-PCIe Wifi cards can be
installed, with cables running to the normal array of external
antennae, sidestepping the problem of USB Wifi dongles.
=C2=A0
I would hype the heck out of a router-style carrier boar= d.=C2=A0 I'd even buy a bunch myself, for that matter. I used to make g= ood money by putting OpenWRT on cheap routers for small businesses.=C2=A0

I've had good success chatting with Eben about = Hackaday articles. If this were to become more than a pipe dream, we could = reach out to him, to see if the=C2=A0Pi Foundation had any interest in back= ing a Pi router carrier board that=C2=A0beats bufferbloat.

--Jonathan Bennett
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