Not quite UDP, but RTP congestion avoidance is being worked on in the IETF. Please join us - http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/rmcat/charter/ Kevin Gross +1-303-447-0517 Media Network Consultant AVA Networks - www.AVAnw.com , www.X192.org On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:44 AM, Forums1000 wrote: > I hope I can get a bit more information on what comprises the total > solution. But knitting it together proves a bit hard (for me at least). > Without this, it is hard to follow the discussions on the list. Has anyone > made a summary of how all of this works together? > > So: > > 1. In order to move the bottleneck to a device under our administrative > control, we need to shape traffic (we need to become the bottleneck). > 2. Next, we have the AQM-algorithms that manage the (or a) queue. > 3. And then there are still issues with multiple flows and with UDP? > > From what I understand, we need to shape traffic, and then drop packets > taking into account that the most aggressive flow (the flow that > contributes the most to filling a buffer), is the flow that will get the > most packets dropped. This to prevent the aggressive flow from impacting > flows that behave better. > > Now for UDP, is the problem here that we cannot identify flows, and hence, > only have one queue for UDP whereas for TCP we can have multiple? > > Any good resources are more than welcome:-)! > > Thanks, > Jeroen > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > >