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From: "Jonas Mårtensson" <martensson.jonas@gmail.com>
To: "Bless, Roland (TM)" <roland.bless@kit.edu>
Cc: Jan Ceuleers <jan.ceuleers@gmail.com>,
	bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] Fwd: [Bug 1436945] Re: devel: consider fq_codel as the default qdisc for networking
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 15:16:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAM9iV=Ksh7R=Cxfje=AOkE=EW9aXyBvez_V=3yLYg3=Vn4UYpw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <73c25a21-0ace-b5ee-090e-d06fb3b8dc60@kit.edu>

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On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 1:28 PM, Bless, Roland (TM) <roland.bless@kit.edu>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Am 24.05.2018 um 17:38 schrieb Jan Ceuleers:
> > Took 3 years after Dave approached them, but Ubuntu is finally adopting
> > fq_codel as the default qdisc.
>
> Yes, if the Linux kernel is forwarding packets it makes a lot of sense,
> but I don't understand why it make sense for ordinary end-systems.
> Didn't Byte Queue Limits (BQL) suffice? Just curious...
>

Actually, for a long time now the codel wiki has recommended using sch_fq
instead of fq_codel for servers.

It seems Ubuntu defaulting to fq_codel is a result of using systemd which
adopted it as default almost 4 years ago. There was a request to change the
default in systemd from fq_codel to sch_fq in order to support pacing but
the issue was closed when tcp internal pacing was introduced in linux 4.13:

https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/5090

/Jonas

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-04 13:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <152717340941.28154.812883711295847116.malone@soybean.canonical.com>
2018-05-24 15:38 ` Jan Ceuleers
2018-06-04 11:28   ` Bless, Roland (TM)
2018-06-04 13:16     ` Jonas Mårtensson [this message]
2018-06-04 17:08       ` Dave Taht
2018-06-04 18:22         ` Jonas Mårtensson
2018-06-04 21:36           ` Jonathan Morton
2018-06-05 15:10             ` [Bloat] " Jonathan Foulkes
2018-06-05 17:24               ` Jonathan Morton
2018-06-05 18:34               ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-06-05 19:31                 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-06-06  6:53                   ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-06-06 13:04                     ` Jonathan Morton
2018-06-12  6:39                       ` Dave Taht
2018-06-12  6:47                         ` Dave Taht
2018-08-11 19:17                           ` Dave Taht
2018-08-13 22:29                   ` [Bloat] ecn redux Dave Taht
2018-06-06  7:44                 ` [Bloat] [Bug 1436945] Re: devel: consider fq_codel as the default qdisc for networking Bless, Roland (TM)
2018-06-06  8:15                   ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-06-06  8:55                     ` Mario Hock
2018-06-05  0:22           ` [Bloat] Fwd: " Michael Richardson
2018-06-05  6:21             ` Jonas Mårtensson
2018-06-06  4:14               ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-06-07 12:56               ` [Bloat] Fwd: [Bug 1436945] -> What other options/bufferbloat-advice ... ? Simon Iremonger (bufferbloat)
2018-06-04 23:00     ` [Bloat] Fwd: [Bug 1436945] Re: devel: consider fq_codel as the default qdisc for networking David Lang
2018-06-05  7:44       ` Mario Hock
2018-06-05  7:49         ` Jonathan Morton
2018-06-05 11:01           ` Mario Hock
2018-08-16 21:08           ` Dave Taht
     [not found] <20150708105006.4232.80615.launchpad@gac.canonical.com>
2015-07-08 13:00 ` Jan Ceuleers

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