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From: Maciej Soltysiak <maciej@soltysiak.com>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] bufferbloat and the web service providers
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 17:14:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMZR1YBOj09sfHr86-f3700PhjEev5D-5=WxNz8mqkJYLobEsg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw5oykc7FjDq+ZFw84kTekj_Jrw-oi+m1wW7wqBX5Oqk3g@mail.gmail.com>

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What are the heaviest (amount of elements, css, images, scripts, js bugs,
ad trackers, all that filth) websites out there?
I wonder if it'd be worthwhile to demo loading that in a standard bloated
environment and compare with debloated setup?

Maybe that could be a variant of your idea below but geared towards end
users?

Maciej

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am not into politics. Really. A problem, though is getting the NN
> people on both sides to stand down, because the real problem was
> bufferbloat - and then work together to move forward, on an
> engineering, rather than political basis.
>
> So, incidentally, while I'm suddenly paying attention to politics,
> while trying to find some way to get this engineering effort funded
> for next year... I noticed a new lobbying group has come out of
> stealth mode, representing the web apps people, google, facebook,
> salesforce.com etc
>
> http://internetassociation.org/
>
> Anybody know these guys? I have long hoped to get these services aware
> that they needed to help fix bufferbloat if they wanted their cloud
> based businesses to work better.
>
> IF I felt like expending money on a marketing campaign to explain our
> issue, and get some funds towards fixing wifi in particular -
>
> the script to the video would look like this (leveraging the old
> "brain on drugs" meme)
>
> * This is your cloud based business - showing a fast, normal load time
> of some major website
>
> * This is your cloud based business on bufferbloat - showing a loaded
> webload go to hell of that site
>
> * This is your cloud based business with bufferbloat fixed -
>
> * Any questions?  - point back to campaign site
>
> Then create a copy of that 30 second piece for every one of the web
> service providers listed as supporting the above org. And as many
> others as possible. And get it on youtube. And buy some ads.
>
> I have no idea how much that would cost to produce professionally (?)
> (at a cut above what jg has already done), but I'm certain it would do
> some good, both in raising awareness and maybe gaining funding for
> next year.
>
> --
> Dave Täht
>
> Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt:
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-12-09 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-19  9:28 [Bloat] " Dave Taht
2012-11-19 12:32 ` Oliver Hohlfeld
2012-11-19 13:13   ` Jonathan Morton
2012-12-09 16:14 ` Maciej Soltysiak [this message]
2012-12-09 16:18   ` [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] " Jonathan Morton
2012-12-09 16:28   ` Steinar H. Gunderson
2012-12-09 16:30     ` Jonathan Morton
2012-12-09 16:32       ` Steinar H. Gunderson
2012-12-09 16:36   ` Dave Taht

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