What are the heaviest (amount of elements, css, images, scripts, js bugs, ad trackers, all that filth) websites out there? I wonder if it'd be worthwhile to demo loading that in a standard bloated environment and compare with debloated setup? Maybe that could be a variant of your idea below but geared towards end users? Maciej On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Dave Taht wrote: > I am not into politics. Really. A problem, though is getting the NN > people on both sides to stand down, because the real problem was > bufferbloat - and then work together to move forward, on an > engineering, rather than political basis. > > So, incidentally, while I'm suddenly paying attention to politics, > while trying to find some way to get this engineering effort funded > for next year... I noticed a new lobbying group has come out of > stealth mode, representing the web apps people, google, facebook, > salesforce.com etc > > http://internetassociation.org/ > > Anybody know these guys? I have long hoped to get these services aware > that they needed to help fix bufferbloat if they wanted their cloud > based businesses to work better. > > IF I felt like expending money on a marketing campaign to explain our > issue, and get some funds towards fixing wifi in particular - > > the script to the video would look like this (leveraging the old > "brain on drugs" meme) > > * This is your cloud based business - showing a fast, normal load time > of some major website > > * This is your cloud based business on bufferbloat - showing a loaded > webload go to hell of that site > > * This is your cloud based business with bufferbloat fixed - > > * Any questions? - point back to campaign site > > Then create a copy of that 30 second piece for every one of the web > service providers listed as supporting the above org. And as many > others as possible. And get it on youtube. And buy some ads. > > I have no idea how much that would cost to produce professionally (?) > (at a cut above what jg has already done), but I'm certain it would do > some good, both in raising awareness and maybe gaining funding for > next year. > > -- > Dave Täht > > Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: > http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.html > _______________________________________________ > Cerowrt-devel mailing list > Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel >