From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pg1-x536.google.com (mail-pg1-x536.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::536]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B72463CB35 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2019 09:38:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-pg1-x536.google.com with SMTP id q1so6581415pgv.13 for ; Tue, 02 Apr 2019 06:38:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mounce.com.au; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=4oTeg8nnvYJivcp3uvyM7E5aycdOT58PWigUbs3w3XE=; b=MMyYPNoVfD+I+oTcXaPrPTHEZ0HIS/h3CMKMgGIlPjkh0ET0XUy7o4eTJ5pz2W7ng1 /lYtlhImeRbYPjA3kXKtZGMBhDOh4Y7/TE5iRimJHy12wRbMBMCc+y+QEWg06jEvlsO8 ijLimpbDqWfs8fSbqhamtG+rJQiCQtuy3WeqwLpTcMVXTc/b0I7yTu+pY7I5wtjkzSME 8wUlWwNFvnhnnd8hp0W1NvWXgSj4D7IyfnjHPywO/fOGkaVc79tP8kSe5phwyX5djCLf hNrLee82oolAr/2V+mHHE9Fk+GbB8UKZ4wEnQIJ2COuX0q0NC7nZKSZNBsZkHne9Apua FXtA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=4oTeg8nnvYJivcp3uvyM7E5aycdOT58PWigUbs3w3XE=; b=hcPXYsyPOuW0HQ+ZPk8XvYwUmWgEoL6laaDpZfgTeBLa7UljoAyZOrhKKvZ1j22uE1 4bhYAzvI8S3kf5lISQKK2lt0Ndgt9SWgiIZfexjrpc+d0Xqpwp2zlw8B/SGNsuBeHw5K 0vQnfhxTn+3QnJHIQYVMZt/9TkTZZaQG4PJlJcZo3Or8ZayB3oCTtRIhzlCp6+xrpYPg TJaj8mfDgKvHz4uKxTwnEEHZLgNpte2Mv+Po0JAmODeScdQE4GEA8a0pdG3xQ/aKbWFF tZ2qTPv6PKj2lv5EhEwTpWWDEN3Pbm/mslLhFy4AP6TDMBxPX4MmoGk6iQc7Y/JBAPrV m6Sw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXciUM0hFCiI+mwzQbq1jc73MB+K/gu4tk1hskvZ5LGZbh1EuEH 6+b+/yu4HApHfYMRtwfV6eCQIoQrf+dGMF0OtyXJCIWClbYcdC4l X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzctU270Kn5qBuvVc4yi98474wc+sgJ5QfAgsfIWQq1cPX14KOTRbjBabkA5WuROF3uYUMZiKL1u8z42wiMOKw= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:8284:: with SMTP id s4mr1960696pfm.235.1554212338874; Tue, 02 Apr 2019 06:38:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Ryan Mounce Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2019 00:08:48 +1030 Message-ID: To: Mikael Abrahamsson Cc: Sebastian Moeller , Jonathan Foulkes , bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [Bloat] number of home routers with ingress AQM X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2019 13:38:59 -0000 On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 00:04, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > > What you described is probably on 95% or more of egress shaping on the BNG > and on egress shaping on HGWs in the field. How many of these single queue deployments actually have ECN marking enabled? This is the really dangerous case with L4S.