From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-it0-x236.google.com (mail-it0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC4E33B25E for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 19:06:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-it0-x236.google.com with SMTP id z123so37066490itg.0 for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 16:06:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=+B/ez04/k8PYGdYiOIsELcmBtbaAvdS/A3Fm9s9mrZI=; b=ro8KUN3gsJWk6GOjQxOB1fpFWoA6J7yoDArx65yMG3BNCXL8OGP1zljSzkm6zul1sv 8w+r7ybggjzm0HrLbwGOhHw5hpzIerYSRJJkylAWbtcdr6EybqeyYOUyHEOjl3nDWHb7 eKuEny62CuHXOzy6rtyyPrH/Qt17uGpgkYdZ57dGqiWY4olVmDhzjPorwg5YviAJl9iT Bcg+s2bzImYtbN3G7rYO6tLwiczLOaQjBw8anpal3tHW8NHFM1vaDlAValai6TpHStbB j9jyDI0yEZFAIJZUXAoQ+UGu6AFsgH8DP3HhIp5Q/FLHbBMFP9fVsF5iGG/nxEtUZqjb ttLQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=+B/ez04/k8PYGdYiOIsELcmBtbaAvdS/A3Fm9s9mrZI=; b=Oakg+P1sJzM9o1SbdTYJO0YLlJpKwi/qeNmtYZseTmZlxX1di52I9Q37fUm00x5k3H uDhEklhVHY1XZTFvbLZP/N/49xF3dYxdkW3fm2lGqF/6R9arFAzKaJv4nlS66QHPsbqh yJN3T3m8+hcPEzMlRNDa5oTt3yfAlTYiuStHphc7s9aVJPqJXONci9PkIDnKkjmiiTgu uIAjs6Nd+IAuGcrLokTjJuL4cjxSWf+VAlMYfKfRJIYP4F7y69EkIuKlIPYhtWzdss8W k9W5NBvHoShh9YYCe5z+pw8hVgg1lE3hv3d+QeZLq/bPXbIohVLyjxR9+PXF90YDT7Uu DhAA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKS21aj7C9uSe+//vLdX8cNY3qsR0a/v/2uPGe91r08evqnjzjQcDq6T1ovXvAWzgZe+G3he+uejIbDMA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.36.46.75 with SMTP id i72mr433561ita.91.1464822400176; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 16:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.243.8 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 16:06:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 00:06:40 +0100 Message-ID: From: Alan Jenkins To: Dave Taht Cc: bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [Bloat] new public web tests for bufferbloat X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 23:06:40 -0000 On 02/06/2016, Alan Jenkins wrote: > On 01/06/2016, Alan Jenkins wrote: >> On 01/06/2016, Dave Taht wrote: >>> see: http://labs.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/ >>> >>> (can't test myself, not being in england - can someone there test it >>> and post results/screenshots?) >> >> http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=1464821570474383655 >> >> (OpenWrt SQM. ISP _download_ is un-bloated already, for reasonable >> numbers of streams. Though even with SQM, downloading multiple >> torrents in Transmission can cause both latency up to 100ms & packet >> loss). > > oops... > > the results page above omits the bufferbloat result. The original > result has a sharing button that requires a Facebook login. Here's > the screenshot > > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/49925445/bufferbloat.net/thinkbroadband.com/2016-06-01%20labs.thinkbroadband.com%20speedtest.png Sorry for noise, I should also say: The latency: 58ms is due to testing on wifi (I guess it's the minimum over a number of pings). The "A" grades for bufferbloat do not seem expandable / clickable >>> and: >>> >>> https://sourceforge.net/speedtest/ >>> >>> which is quite pretty, if mildly confusing. >>> >>> >>> I have issues with the language and testing methodologies, of course, >>> but it is good to see these arrive. When will speedtest.net get it >>> right? > -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? >> A: Top-posting. >>> Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?