From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <517635176358552@replikon.net> Received: from mail-vk1-xa2b.google.com (mail-vk1-xa2b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::a2b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB7BA3B2A4 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2023 02:57:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-vk1-xa2b.google.com with SMTP id 71dfb90a1353d-4715404cbb3so1065909e0c.1 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2023 23:57:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=replikon.net; s=google; t=1687503446; x=1690095446; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=93dLUigrULPRMqSfDZX7nxKxCeJM4WABJPzsknujGp8=; b=Imn5UIM0/x0vbOCbwHhCxRPZCc/OFso0UtCAS13a+M8Na/rPacc4yM6kNSyZJ38Z2/ jxOpMxEhSjAhUhEbFs44FmAvbMnZ1dRX/rcWxo2Z0oUOQp3V7xQR8vwdIsFxoX2j2gL5 UyR/9QRyhzyWLbY/nZDPBblOcoZZjLLc04Wxs= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1687503446; x=1690095446; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=93dLUigrULPRMqSfDZX7nxKxCeJM4WABJPzsknujGp8=; b=PFXVia8UcWgDT8wepExXTopYi4jskx9CsF0zGC/8M1NV/LdfVmrlsnf9nF7UYvAx7u wmfV1Faqwhpu6ub/o9AR5SzC++kE8VUDR4TTuhXcAo07EK4e1YMsl5ERRKrwYS8/IIiX 0rmJreBhpKsc8yfXgkDmAdwLMnQzFBkFGRreYBc/D93c4gN59WeqWt0/z1rm9ZdOHZ1p K+ECBRdl4k0ldSRV/3fS27RHrtqxL9d2icpI8ZV7Nju8o38wm/Xw8gL5gyO3jMLs5Dc8 ydYCrUfrLRQkDLXUy+06sTJQuFCJvCIxykafTRUx69eA02GsDjvm9Stm1Np4deXyyHVP WXwQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDyx0EguHPHlr/FPDR8eQlio1RZ9AD4++72oPKdqOIuKK1ZiTjDW gP6lbN2GKtd3SB8LgGZv3g2VHygKxQGa8HfQH5ccF69tgLyZ/luFcqs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACHHUZ7pgWNDL3/GJ23TnYYTFTLH7LWSvF5hJbjZYPR/Smj0OD+zuLQVUbnK7paYnqf9BJB6eIrEOar0PF7cBRZ5ibA= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6122:1781:b0:45c:b73b:ed25 with SMTP id o1-20020a056122178100b0045cb73bed25mr7379616vkf.3.1687503445847; Thu, 22 Jun 2023 23:57:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: "Douglas Goncz A.A.S. M.E.T. 1990" Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2023 02:57:13 -0400 Message-ID: To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000072897c05fec6834f" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 18:46:40 -0400 Subject: Re: [Bloat] MiM attacks in the L4S low latency networking environment X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2023 06:57:26 -0000 --00000000000072897c05fec6834f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Moderators please note the most recent digest contained some information about l4s testing. I was stimulated by progress in the l4s area to consider whether reduction in latency would affect susceptibility of buffers to MIM and other attacks I received a note from automatic robot somewhere saying that I posted to a members only list using an unsubscribed address I repeat the address used for this communication dgoncz@replikon.net Is it possible that a capitalization error has caused the robot to think this is an unsubscribed address? For example using various email clients the mail might be sent from DGoncz@Replikon.net ...., Douglas On Thu, Jun 22, 2023, 6:57 AM Douglas Goncz A.A.S. M.E.T. 1990 < DGoncz@replikon.net> wrote: > Theorem: > > If N bots cooperate in > > A man in the middle attack or a denial of service attack in an L4S > environment, with 1 point of entry into each susceptible buffer, > > WITH > > A generalized fixed estimated probability of success 0 < P.S.1 < 1 = (1 - > P.F.1) > > THEN including interactions between the bots the > > Generalized probability of success is (about): > > P.S.N ~= 1 - ( (1-P.S.1) ^ (N^2 - N) ). > > Reframed for sci-fi physics research: > > If 1 atom fissions in a specific amount of time with probability P.S.1 > above, > > Do N tightly coupled atoms fission with probability P.S.N in the same > amount of time? > > Douglas > REPLIKON Research 783774974 > > BCC: > Lynch PhD, > Teri, > Jason, and > MIT81 > --00000000000072897c05fec6834f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Moderators please note the most recent digest contai= ned some information about l4s testing.

I was stimulated by progress in the l4s area to consider wh= ether reduction in latency would affect susceptibility of buffers to MIM an= d other attacks

I receiv= ed a note from automatic robot somewhere saying that I posted to a members = only list using an unsubscribed address

I repeat the address used for this communication


Is it possible that a capitalization error has caused the robot to thi= nk this is an unsubscribed address?

For example using various email clients the mail might be sent = from

DGoncz@Replikon.net=


....,

Douglas
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023, 6:57 AM Douglas Goncz A.A.S. M.E.T. 1990 <DGoncz@replikon.net> wrote:
=
Theorem:

If N bots cooperate in

A man in the middle attack or a denial of = service attack in an L4S environment, with 1 point of entry into each susce= ptible buffer,

WITH=C2= =A0

A generalized fixed = estimated probability of success 0 < P.S.1 < 1 =3D (1 - P.F.1)
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THEN including interactions be= tween the bots the

Gener= alized probability of success is (about):

=
P.S.N ~=3D 1 - ( (1-P.S.1) ^ (N^2 - N) ).

Reframed for sci-fi physics research:=

If 1 atom fissions in a= specific amount of time with probability P.S.1 above,

Do N tightly coupled atoms fission with prob= ability P.S.N in the same amount of time?

=
Douglas
REPLIKON Research 78377497= 4

BCC:
Lynch PhD,
Teri,
Jason,= and
MIT81
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