From: "Richard Scheffenegger" <rscheff@gmx.at>
To: "Fred Baker" <fred@cisco.com>
Cc: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Bloat] Jumbo frames and LAN buffers (was: RE: Burst Loss)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 20:11:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CFB99BF83BE74AEF91044F4DBA3E65B7@srichardlxp2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <13672E5D-7EAE-446A-A8D8-BA85EF2CE72E@cisco.com>
Hi Fred,
Yes, that's the common topology; However, 802.3x is often used only
unidirectional and with very limited effect, but not bidirectional. At least
that's the default settings... (I wonder, if both ends of a link are RX,
would flow control ever get triggered?)
I know a number of deployments, where globally enabling full flowcontrol (as
opposed to RX / TX only) lead to fewer packet drops, but also to sometimes
massively reduces network bandwidth.
This is what I meant when I said you don't want to deploy flow control in a
multi-tier network topology because of the congestion tree forming.
Best regards,
Richard
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Baker" <fred@cisco.com>
To: "Richard Scheffenegger" <rscheff@gmx.at>
Cc: "Jonathan Morton" <chromatix99@gmail.com>; <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Bloat] Jumbo frames and LAN buffers (was: RE: Burst Loss)
On May 16, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Richard Scheffenegger wrote:
> Second, you wouldn't want to deploy basic 802.3x to any network consisting
> of more than a single switch.
actually, it's pretty common practice. Three layers, even. People build
backbones, and then ring them with workgroup switches, and then put small
switches on their desks.=
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-16 18:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-26 17:05 [Bloat] Network computing article on bloat Dave Taht
2011-04-26 18:13 ` Dave Hart
2011-04-26 18:17 ` Dave Taht
2011-04-26 18:28 ` dave greenfield
2011-04-26 18:32 ` Wesley Eddy
2011-04-26 19:37 ` Dave Taht
2011-04-26 20:21 ` Wesley Eddy
2011-04-26 20:30 ` Constantine Dovrolis
2011-04-26 21:16 ` Dave Taht
2011-04-27 17:10 ` Bill Sommerfeld
2011-04-27 17:40 ` Wesley Eddy
2011-04-27 7:43 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-04-30 15:56 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2011-04-30 19:18 ` [Bloat] Goodput fraction w/ AQM vs bufferbloat Richard Scheffenegger
2011-05-05 16:01 ` Jim Gettys
2011-05-05 16:10 ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-05-05 16:30 ` Jim Gettys
2011-05-05 16:49 ` [Bloat] Burst Loss Neil Davies
2011-05-05 18:34 ` Jim Gettys
2011-05-06 11:40 ` Sam Stickland
2011-05-06 11:53 ` Neil Davies
2011-05-08 12:42 ` Richard Scheffenegger
2011-05-09 18:06 ` Rick Jones
2011-05-11 8:53 ` Richard Scheffenegger
2011-05-11 9:53 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-12 14:16 ` [Bloat] Publications Richard Scheffenegger
2011-05-12 16:31 ` [Bloat] Burst Loss Fred Baker
2011-05-12 16:41 ` Rick Jones
2011-05-12 17:11 ` Fred Baker
2011-05-13 5:00 ` Kevin Gross
2011-05-13 14:35 ` Rick Jones
2011-05-13 14:54 ` Dave Taht
2011-05-13 20:03 ` [Bloat] Jumbo frames and LAN buffers (was: RE: Burst Loss) Kevin Gross
2011-05-14 20:48 ` Fred Baker
2011-05-15 18:28 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-05-15 20:49 ` Fred Baker
2011-05-16 0:31 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-05-16 7:51 ` Richard Scheffenegger
2011-05-16 9:49 ` Fred Baker
2011-05-16 11:23 ` [Bloat] Jumbo frames and LAN buffers Jim Gettys
2011-05-16 13:15 ` Kevin Gross
2011-05-16 13:22 ` Jim Gettys
2011-05-16 13:42 ` Kevin Gross
2011-05-16 15:23 ` Jim Gettys
[not found] ` <-854731558634984958@unknownmsgid>
2011-05-16 13:45 ` Dave Taht
2011-05-16 18:36 ` Richard Scheffenegger
2011-05-16 18:11 ` Richard Scheffenegger [this message]
2011-05-17 7:49 ` [Bloat] Jumbo frames and LAN buffers (was: RE: Burst Loss) BeckW
2011-05-17 14:16 ` Dave Taht
[not found] ` <-4629065256951087821@unknownmsgid>
2011-05-13 20:21 ` Dave Taht
2011-05-13 22:36 ` Kevin Gross
2011-05-13 22:08 ` [Bloat] Burst Loss david
2011-05-13 19:32 ` Denton Gentry
2011-05-13 20:47 ` Rick Jones
2011-05-06 4:18 ` [Bloat] Goodput fraction w/ AQM vs bufferbloat Fred Baker
2011-05-06 15:14 ` richard
2011-05-06 21:56 ` Fred Baker
2011-05-06 22:10 ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-05-07 16:39 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-05-08 0:15 ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-05-08 3:04 ` Constantine Dovrolis
2011-05-08 13:00 ` Richard Scheffenegger
2011-05-08 12:53 ` Richard Scheffenegger
2011-05-08 12:34 ` Richard Scheffenegger
2011-05-09 3:07 ` Fred Baker
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