From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lf1-x129.google.com (mail-lf1-x129.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::129]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39CE93B2A4 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 14:42:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-lf1-x129.google.com with SMTP id v5so5852746lfe.7 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 11:42:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=TKKEb8ffNOdjFfIELdZ9unBLsmeGjeABBVh9EUZnugs=; b=EkTygAf2RrS+8MWBl1WVx8CObktbOlGzDkDlwBUGmXB1gviJ92HMRwc8PJxtszEUPC 809pwch58hESxmxt567bOCg+fQ7kVvQtyv7L5AsdiqE89PAog88EAMTIMTEpPoJ7TwkN R10nejLws5Jy5BMnHD0wcxCRYBYyWOLTGiPDinIffroTpyvuuIZ6IXv0vS+VCnhIno+v 5GHsRbZ6FWvtgBKo+ugB3nyL+bpt8Hm5UJphJTNbW9myvHtn9VZxsUXhbknkSVzuIKi5 ThQvw7WA9sxrUhIpw1PEHF1Da5gFFAKTwdrl4UQskU4u/09DMHJIKWMHyG5kN+aygrSH BJEg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=TKKEb8ffNOdjFfIELdZ9unBLsmeGjeABBVh9EUZnugs=; b=rGQXKYqBe0DdaRqFkCGGKzmd0LUJYsTqEOxdWDXX+Lxapn4fgWViRprYKE828bZkVo 5WMOci0z8UOsmviIg4rV6ajgsPjz3KF3sDHwl7EFCAMnora+1ZyFqUuXxp9eGLp/uRDB 8Cep9y+RZQJ2AQf8ssuPGzsZvKxyPqanT7hOpXkkEqqr0yr8FTm97YBtUoN9y7Pj++ka l56rwvQMODKWxEvyO7rq1pyx5/U0VbGPRBTZ84KCCP7/ESzq6ZVqkGkX7mw6HEQRJNcP kBqXfoSpjuqj7jsLvlQ5Ft4fUknrY3UdxcZ3j3+UnfWARftJKZszFxSRplqYfh61XCDh qSLA== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukdXxSmmJAgkXjG9gAaYj8LtRRWwZJ4PNYLh5C15HRZ04a4T00XQ olO64N45CcvInAT7bZTamuc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN5gU/567F6JqDpyNq6vIjyYDILMtMh1z1JlHQpz9WrK913NrikqF1PlZw6MQMIKpo83rthywQ== X-Received: by 2002:a19:9b50:: with SMTP id d77mr8267817lfe.137.1547667755006; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 11:42:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from jonathartonsmbp.lan (83-245-233-163-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi. [83.245.233.163]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q67sm1357168lfe.19.2019.01.16.11.42.33 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 16 Jan 2019 11:42:34 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 21:42:32 +0200 Cc: bloat Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Rich Brown X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Subject: Re: [Bloat] Cake in Riverbed? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 19:42:36 -0000 > On 16 Jan, 2019, at 1:59 pm, Rich Brown = wrote: >=20 > It appears that Riverbed is offering CAKE on its branch gateways... And they make much of its no-brainer Diffserv configuration, which is = nice considering they appear to target environments where Diffserv is = actually used. - Jonathan Morton