From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lf0-x243.google.com (mail-lf0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F19CC3B2A2 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2016 19:49:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lf0-x243.google.com with SMTP id p100so5208691lfg.2 for ; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 16:49:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=l7BulRpyMs67krri06DqtQAjiG7Q5z0VWhHtgJZtFgQ=; b=j+xBAIC9NvGOHI9Q6xY6Gc/3d0bAOttnZHy1uQ2oFBL931jwS5qbA23aoeWG5zE+uV fxe6bI7MjqrpSNbw5LDbOAwv6kV7ttiNyJ7gjVzCuvL5HqhnoqLD8roObjzJzCKow6oL 7QjvZK2p3bSlJc1UpaBnQQdlJgaV4y0NEtioP2ArT+5v7K3ObdQJysCr+2mTjSKPwFJF /MCx7pg/rbpGPgyVNoXoXTwMmnhKVC71S1u2cqXPSx2PTWAd5m303+GmaynbJ2QRy8hs VA+ZRZRBG3ASfiiP65mS9SGa6fZ/7fFAWsm02FKzeYel/VpVEkpFl9EcwLxPSo9GCzva GEbg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=l7BulRpyMs67krri06DqtQAjiG7Q5z0VWhHtgJZtFgQ=; b=fY1Ui+uQ8UZ9WDKjorIC5zhjImjr2nJShFi+zepATVFBhDrwaUAl51w7xS7ckFpftQ cLVHVdcEC/XU73Ab1GuarNIW8q2Af9S4Vmi7C6uzkBOxkTfLppcvNJ3MqaQkUSz7LSL6 zMhpoNTVdkPS1S29o0hL4ccgDZxxFm3a6zMTQxlLdhJFxTjHWTeEFdBmH0boDIR6zq7F Yq4SzKEGSV+ktPqEMl3Yw+gUdLbgsc9J9qCQH7ub9RGrFf2nFXFx1nBeVgMtFhosmqlV ppXH5gzu2vbxx0O9FU58xJI0sEpgZGZXQKCfh8fylJ7baVkyZRNutP14ULsFSIdv4aDu 0RcQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ABUngvchdftiwonBdntb2YuVJQ58TGkOpE8hrrgFuNxbNDc7+wbM4UcP7iqIjCGSml7i5w== X-Received: by 10.25.215.34 with SMTP id o34mr286952lfg.35.1478044185673; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 16:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.100.13] (37-33-82-144.bb.dnainternet.fi. [37.33.82.144]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 65sm790401ljb.23.2016.11.01.16.49.44 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 01 Nov 2016 16:49:44 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 01:49:42 +0200 Cc: Dave Taht , "Steinar H. Gunderson" , bloat , BBR Development Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20161021084726.GA1913@sesse.net> <20161027170447.GA28383@sesse.net> To: Yuchung Cheng X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Subject: Re: [Bloat] [bbr-dev] Re: "BBR" TCP patches submitted to linux kernel X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2016 23:49:47 -0000 > On 2 Nov, 2016, at 01:13, 'Yuchung Cheng' via BBR Development = wrote: >=20 > We are curious why you choose the single-queued AQM. Is it just for = the sake of testing? Not to speak for them, but single-queue AQM is the most likely = implementation for high-speed hardware. DOCSIS 3.1, for example, = specifies PIE for client upstream, not any form of FQ-PIE. It therefore = remains an important use-case for interop testing. - Jonathan Morton