From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lj1-x230.google.com (mail-lj1-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB9333B29D for ; Mon, 17 May 2021 01:24:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lj1-x230.google.com with SMTP id c15so5630721ljr.7 for ; Sun, 16 May 2021 22:24:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=pAiQx3RJW3ICvGChjAG5/spr5ihGfI6pNC9gYAk8U1o=; b=LOd7FPWqj+A/u0h6AuLSypu+PAtHayTDDx8iM/B97IbLaxufPV3ez9f2InFZzru1kV /NYXJRBUwN689axBc8qtFObaRJqqsP7PfDhqF5lbhIEAXb0skxmd5j7OMthO32csB8jC 3T1r2hYpKmZmwKPLgL1EYYx2ina9IfvHlcUvQkOVjLIkK7vNDwyzjxJQtvUZ5mjXuIHo 29tOYBd0RIR2oJ6OkmqrCQqXLM9yoDh517AkRdN8zZMaiw+W3dBxtmD+UKws/GqxzI4j n1rlbQ/bpEPI5MkBZBE4v3rvN2vo8gLUcMiG/k4xSKcwxDbI8DAsKtTp5Yhhgu9KWVT2 7dXA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=pAiQx3RJW3ICvGChjAG5/spr5ihGfI6pNC9gYAk8U1o=; b=KiY5zMqIqvPINQkhb6Y+SjLK7t+G3ngJjj2F1pmGtYP7D8xl3VSqACO3AnaO2cwFGG SjqcfRaZ+c4UYfz8AnA2rnu2FQDUQ5mc4oglCQUrZL74upx23S+zfmJZ1VvV19Ib2Aaa cZebOcBrMLxFvtpX0yzT5puTh7kTIRbBcsNaXViZ1KYFTHzcFb7lqCZH/T5ifQa42J1V /TBf3xt/R4xLIRDh3LPTrHFb6zX1NimfzjTAaZKgrQZtwzFdi9KBE5EVw2aTfV5SeIQL VjevUJIVI08ZEdK0jH8fhdzj3Ezl6xrbgkDcOnKjacCr9zzl5PfFP0w7mKAHKvqNPmOh /WvA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5322gTCqDd7yJ6IkY5UxbUh7NEIUYi3tqmJOkkKmRRrPbPUghCWj j8xthGNUAylrFiL2Hf4RM9k= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzzEzlIqhLhw7qyyyO8AvJxEnT6TyUEbuxTtuBFxhmPxMkCHB5s5lUtBi3Oe05J877IAoVHnA== X-Received: by 2002:a2e:a492:: with SMTP id h18mr48596932lji.161.1621229073605; Sun, 16 May 2021 22:24:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jonathartonsmbp.lan (37-136-237-77.rev.dnainternet.fi. [37.136.237.77]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s2sm2774601ljo.14.2021.05.16.22.24.32 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 16 May 2021 22:24:33 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.7\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: <97191DFF-F492-4441-B9E6-F34DF37E9307@superduper.net> Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 08:24:31 +0300 Cc: john , bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <6d93a3cf-7907-c50b-7903-79bd638b5766@indexexchange.com> <97191DFF-F492-4441-B9E6-F34DF37E9307@superduper.net> To: Simon Barber X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.7) Subject: Re: [Bloat] Terminology for Laypeople X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 05:24:35 -0000 > On 17 May, 2021, at 8:18 am, Simon Barber = wrote: >=20 > How=E2=80=99s that? It's a wall of text full of technical jargon. It seems to be = technically correct, but probably not very useful for the intended = context. - Jonathan Morton=