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charset=utf-8 > On 11 Jun 2018, at 22:27, Dave Taht wrote: >=20 > https://ripe76.ripe.net/presentations/10-2018-05-15-bbr.pdf Fascinating! " =E2=80=A2 BBR changes all those assumptions, and could = potentially push many networks into sustained instability =E2=80=A2 =E2=80=93 We cannot use the conventional network = control mechanisms to regulate BBR flows =E2=80=A2 Selective packet drop just won=E2=80=99t create back pressure = on the flow=E2=80=9D And I keep on seeing questions on whether BBR understands ECN - if = not=E2=80=A6. well I think we see the results. 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