From: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>
To: Gert Doering <gert@space.net>
Cc: "Dave Täht" <dave.taht@gmail.com>,
"Dave Taht via Starlink" <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
Rpm <rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
"Jamal Hadi Salim" <jhs@mojatatu.com>,
bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] [Rpm] net neutrality back in the news
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2023 09:38:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <F0BE7DEA-4DE6-4505-886F-C855AB52AC84@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZRUsLalRicJpQoXH@Space.Net>
Hi Gert,
> On Sep 28, 2023, at 09:33, Gert Doering <gert@space.net> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 09:14:27AM +0200, Sebastian Moeller wrote:
>> [SM] Has Vodafone started using IPv6 for their DSL-users yet*? About the content that is an interesting question, I will try to measure in my home network what IPv4/IPv6 traffic ration I actually see.
>
> Many high-volume sides do offer IPv6, since years (all google infra,
> youtube, facebook, etc.) - so depending on the type of end-users, you
> can see well over 50% IPv6 traffic. Think "student dormitories" and
> "youtube" ;-)
[SM] I have some youtube-affine kifs^W erm, "users" on my network that might push the ratio towards IPv6 then ;)
> But this really depends on the nature of your traffic, as many "news
> outlet" types are still missing (stern.de, spiegel.de, bild.de, ...)
> (and those would be prone to SEO coaxing ;-) ).
[SM] True!
> What irks me quite a bit is that there's still many content offerings
> that use CDNs (Akamai, Cloudflare, etc.) who can do IPv6 perfectly fine,
> you just have to check the "[X] yes, IPv6!" checkbox... so we have,
> www.ard.de who are behind Akamai, but have no v6...
[SM] I also seem to recall that the playstation and xbox networks operate mostly IPv4, valve probably as well.
>
>> [Vodafone DSL]
>> *) According to https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/203020/umfrage/anzahl-der-dsl-kunden-von-vodafone-in-deutschland/ Vodafone Germany had around 2.5 Million DSL customers end on 2022 this is not a lot (there are roughly 40 Million access links in Germany) but it is also not "nothing".
>
> I wasn't aware that Vodafone DSL is lacking in that regards - as they have
> IPv6 on their cable and mobile offerings (arguably "different networks,
> before VF bought them and put the VF label on top"). But you're right,
> there is work to do. Thanks for the insight.
[SM] I am sure Vodafone DSL used to have that issue, but honestly I do not know about the current state (so maybe I should have reasearched that first before posting), I would hope for their users that they activated IPv6.
Besten Gruss
Sebastian
>
> Gert Doering
> -- NetMaster
> --
> have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-28 7:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-27 18:21 [Bloat] " Dave Taht
2023-09-28 3:33 ` [Bloat] [Rpm] " rjmcmahon
2023-09-28 6:06 ` Dave Taht
2023-10-01 17:08 ` [Bloat] [Starlink] " Sebastian Moeller
2023-10-05 19:22 ` Dave Taht
2023-09-28 6:25 ` [Bloat] " Sebastian Moeller
[not found] ` <ZRUe_5uiRJyDxb9Z@Space.Net>
2023-09-28 7:14 ` [Bloat] [Starlink] " Sebastian Moeller
[not found] ` <ZRUsLalRicJpQoXH@Space.Net>
2023-09-28 7:38 ` Sebastian Moeller [this message]
2023-09-28 16:38 ` [Bloat] " Dave Taht
2023-09-28 16:52 ` [Bloat] [Starlink] " Livingood, Jason
2023-09-28 17:04 ` [Bloat] [Rpm] [Starlink] " rjmcmahon
2023-09-28 19:31 ` [Bloat] [Rpm] " Sebastian Moeller
2023-09-28 19:39 ` Dave Taht
2023-09-28 20:08 ` [Bloat] [LibreQoS] " dan
2023-09-28 20:18 ` Dave Taht
2023-09-29 19:00 ` [Bloat] Getting Google to index. was:Re: [Starlink] " Rodney W. Grimes
2023-09-28 20:36 ` [Bloat] " Jeremy Austin
2023-09-28 20:54 ` Livingood, Jason
2023-09-28 20:48 ` [Bloat] [Starlink] " Livingood, Jason
2023-09-28 22:19 ` David Lang
2023-09-29 4:54 ` Jonathan Morton
2023-09-29 12:28 ` [Bloat] [Rpm] [Starlink] [LibreQoS] " Rich Brown
2023-09-29 16:15 ` dan
2023-09-30 12:00 ` Frantisek Borsik
2023-09-30 12:19 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-09-30 12:42 ` [Bloat] [Starlink] [Rpm] " Vint Cerf
2023-09-30 14:07 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-09-30 14:28 ` [Bloat] [Rpm] [Starlink] " Jan Ceuleers
2023-09-30 14:35 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-09-30 14:41 ` Mike Conlow
2023-09-30 15:20 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-09-30 15:23 ` [Bloat] [LibreQoS] [Rpm] [Starlink] " Dave Taht
2023-09-30 17:35 ` Dave Taht
2023-09-30 21:57 ` [Bloat] New email list: NNagain for network neutrality Dave Taht
2023-10-04 22:19 ` [Bloat] [Rpm] [Starlink] [LibreQoS] net neutrality back in the news Michael Richardson
2023-09-29 6:24 ` Sebastian Moeller
[not found] ` <ZRZvMLtKhkd6-16m@Space.Net>
2023-09-29 7:07 ` [Bloat] [Starlink] [Rpm] " Sebastian Moeller
2023-09-28 22:25 ` [Bloat] [LibreQoS] [Rpm] " David Lang
2023-09-28 17:10 ` [Bloat] " Livingood, Jason
2023-09-28 19:30 ` Dave Taht
2023-09-28 20:05 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-09-28 21:07 ` [Bloat] [EXTERNAL] " Livingood, Jason
2023-09-28 21:08 ` Livingood, Jason
2023-09-29 8:56 ` Erik Auerswald
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