* Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] Starlink Bufferbloat [not found] <A6708D69-2D66-4847-9F25-7A1FCB7843AE@gmail.com> @ 2023-09-01 6:39 ` Tom Zubko 2023-09-01 12:32 ` Luis A. Cornejo 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Tom Zubko @ 2023-09-01 6:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Spencer Sevilla; +Cc: tom, Dave Taht via Starlink, bloat [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/html, Size: 10838 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] Starlink Bufferbloat 2023-09-01 6:39 ` [Bloat] [Starlink] Starlink Bufferbloat Tom Zubko @ 2023-09-01 12:32 ` Luis A. Cornejo 2023-09-01 14:22 ` Tom Zubko 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Luis A. Cornejo @ 2023-09-01 12:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tom Zubko; +Cc: Spencer Sevilla, Dave Taht via Starlink, bloat [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3116 bytes --] Tom, Did you perhaps forget to attach images or include links? -Luis On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 1:41 AM Tom Zubko via Starlink < starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > Hi Spencer > > A degree or so south from your experience, and closer to Alaska. But same > polar laser cross linked environment. > > First one is a HP dish. Second one is a residential unit. Usually a bit > more spread between the 2 but not as much as I expected. > > Obviously we are sucking hard on the pipe!! > > Tom Zubko > New North > C 1-867-777-6190 > O 1-867-777-2111 > > On Aug 31, 2023, at 15:59, Spencer Sevilla via Starlink < > starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > > FWIW, I got 188 down a few weeks ago in the high Arctic (~70 degrees > latitude). DL usually hung out around 100 more or less, at times was as low > as 30, and then this was the highest result I saw. > <Screenshot 2023-08-15 at 08.02.43.png> > > On Aug 31, 2023, at 14:06, Tom Evslin via Starlink < > starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > > Actually my results were with the cloudflare speedtest > > *From:* Luis A. Cornejo <luis.a.cornejo@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, August 31, 2023 4:47 PM > *To:* tom@evslin.com > *Cc:* Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>; bloat < > bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> > *Subject:* Re: [Starlink] Starlink Bufferbloat > > I had an almost identical result via the waveform tool. But was never able > to reproduce it, so I took it as a fluke or waveform mis measurement. > > Just judging by the speed it might just be in an isolated cell, not a not > busy time. > > It seems that Ookla seems to be gamed by the ISPs frequently. So that > might explain it also. > > Have you tried the Cloudflare speed test on your dishy with the same > loaded pings? > > -Luis > > On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 3:22 PM <tom@evslin.com> wrote: > > I’ve seen isolated results like this from my dish in central Vermont. They > were more frequent during the beta. > > *From:* Starlink <starlink-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net> *On Behalf Of *Luis > A. Cornejo via Starlink > *Sent:* Thursday, August 31, 2023 4:09 PM > *To:* Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>; bloat < > bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> > *Subject:* [Starlink] Starlink Bufferbloat > > I saw this screen shot on Reddit. Seemed like it might of been a fluke? > Isolated case? Are they cheating? No way they have seen the light? > > I don’t have my dishy anymore, but can someone double check for me? > > https://reddit.com/r/Starlink/s/ysQ0AZ6RKX > > <image001.png> > > > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > > > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 10729 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] Starlink Bufferbloat 2023-09-01 12:32 ` Luis A. Cornejo @ 2023-09-01 14:22 ` Tom Zubko 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Tom Zubko @ 2023-09-01 14:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Luis A. Cornejo; +Cc: Spencer Sevilla, Dave Taht via Starlink, bloat [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/html, Size: 11445 bytes --] [-- Attachment #1.2: image.png --] [-- Type: image/png, Size: 810908 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* [Bloat] Starlink Bufferbloat @ 2023-08-31 20:08 Luis A. Cornejo 2023-08-31 20:22 ` [Bloat] [Starlink] " tom 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Luis A. Cornejo @ 2023-08-31 20:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dave Taht via Starlink, bloat [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 260 bytes --] I saw this screen shot on Reddit. Seemed like it might of been a fluke? Isolated case? Are they cheating? No way they have seen the light? I don’t have my dishy anymore, but can someone double check for me? https://reddit.com/r/Starlink/s/ysQ0AZ6RKX [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 539 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: A3B740C6-EC7B-49E5-8094-CD73FB8A14ED.png --] [-- Type: image/png, Size: 361700 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] Starlink Bufferbloat 2023-08-31 20:08 [Bloat] " Luis A. Cornejo @ 2023-08-31 20:22 ` tom 2023-08-31 20:46 ` Luis A. Cornejo 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: tom @ 2023-08-31 20:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Luis A. Cornejo', 'Dave Taht via Starlink', 'bloat' [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 693 bytes --] I’ve seen isolated results like this from my dish in central Vermont. They were more frequent during the beta. From: Starlink <starlink-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net> On Behalf Of Luis A. Cornejo via Starlink Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2023 4:09 PM To: Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>; bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> Subject: [Starlink] Starlink Bufferbloat I saw this screen shot on Reddit. Seemed like it might of been a fluke? Isolated case? Are they cheating? No way they have seen the light? I don’t have my dishy anymore, but can someone double check for me? https://reddit.com/r/Starlink/s/ysQ0AZ6RKX [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 3160 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: image001.png --] [-- Type: image/png, Size: 361700 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] Starlink Bufferbloat 2023-08-31 20:22 ` [Bloat] [Starlink] " tom @ 2023-08-31 20:46 ` Luis A. Cornejo 2023-08-31 21:06 ` tom 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Luis A. Cornejo @ 2023-08-31 20:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: tom; +Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink, bloat [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1229 bytes --] I had an almost identical result via the waveform tool. But was never able to reproduce it, so I took it as a fluke or waveform mis measurement. Just judging by the speed it might just be in an isolated cell, not a not busy time. It seems that Ookla seems to be gamed by the ISPs frequently. So that might explain it also. Have you tried the Cloudflare speed test on your dishy with the same loaded pings? -Luis On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 3:22 PM <tom@evslin.com> wrote: > I’ve seen isolated results like this from my dish in central Vermont. They > were more frequent during the beta. > > > > *From:* Starlink <starlink-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net> *On Behalf Of *Luis > A. Cornejo via Starlink > *Sent:* Thursday, August 31, 2023 4:09 PM > *To:* Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>; bloat < > bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> > *Subject:* [Starlink] Starlink Bufferbloat > > > > I saw this screen shot on Reddit. Seemed like it might of been a fluke? > Isolated case? Are they cheating? No way they have seen the light? > > > > I don’t have my dishy anymore, but can someone double check for me? > > > > https://reddit.com/r/Starlink/s/ysQ0AZ6RKX > > > > > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 3184 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: image001.png --] [-- Type: image/png, Size: 361700 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] Starlink Bufferbloat 2023-08-31 20:46 ` Luis A. Cornejo @ 2023-08-31 21:06 ` tom 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: tom @ 2023-08-31 21:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Luis A. Cornejo' Cc: 'Dave Taht via Starlink', 'bloat' [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1683 bytes --] Actually my results were with the cloudflare speedtest From: Luis A. Cornejo <luis.a.cornejo@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2023 4:47 PM To: tom@evslin.com Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>; bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink Bufferbloat I had an almost identical result via the waveform tool. But was never able to reproduce it, so I took it as a fluke or waveform mis measurement. Just judging by the speed it might just be in an isolated cell, not a not busy time. It seems that Ookla seems to be gamed by the ISPs frequently. So that might explain it also. Have you tried the Cloudflare speed test on your dishy with the same loaded pings? -Luis On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 3:22 PM <tom@evslin.com <mailto:tom@evslin.com> > wrote: I’ve seen isolated results like this from my dish in central Vermont. They were more frequent during the beta. From: Starlink <starlink-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:starlink-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net> > On Behalf Of Luis A. Cornejo via Starlink Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2023 4:09 PM To: Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> >; bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> > Subject: [Starlink] Starlink Bufferbloat I saw this screen shot on Reddit. Seemed like it might of been a fluke? Isolated case? Are they cheating? No way they have seen the light? I don’t have my dishy anymore, but can someone double check for me? https://reddit.com/r/Starlink/s/ysQ0AZ6RKX [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 5967 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: image001.png --] [-- Type: image/png, Size: 361700 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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