From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rp-wkf-scn01.ctl-web.co.uk (rp-wkf-scn01.ctl-web.co.uk [109.69.238.84]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "scanner01.roaringpenguin.co.uk", Issuer "Starfield Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F4B121F9A8 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2015 12:03:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.smtp.pnsol.com (ec2-54-246-165-192.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com [54.246.165.192]) by rp-wkf-scn01.ctl-web.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-4) with ESMTP id t91J2vOW013129 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 1 Oct 2015 20:02:57 +0100 Received: from mail.la.pnsol.com ([172.20.5.206]) by relay.smtp.pnsol.com with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Zhj8W-0004qk-TC; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:03:25 +0000 Received: from git.pnsol.com ([172.20.5.238] helo=roam.smtp.pnsol.com) by mail.la.pnsol.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Zhj77-0002Ev-8v; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 20:01:57 +0100 Received: from [172.20.5.105] by roam.smtp.pnsol.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Zhj76-00022S-Dv; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:01:57 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Neil Davies In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 20:02:53 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Dave Taht X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Spam-Score: undef - relay 54.246.165.192 marked with skip_spam_scan X-CanIt-Geo: ip=54.246.165.192; country=IE; region=Leinster; city=Dublin; latitude=53.3331; longitude=-6.2489; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=53.3331,-6.2489&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: pnsol-com:outbound (inherits from pnsol-com:default, PredictableNetworkSolutions:default, Wholesale:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: Bayes signature not available X-CanIt-Archive-Cluster: Rl4fxI1RVOq/TTUYGiKHQwqlXy8 X-CanIt-Archived-As: pnsol-com/20151001 / 03PnT2Vsm X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 109.69.238.84 Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] no bufferbloat at gige for b4rn.org.uk X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:03:24 -0000 They supply switched gigabit ethernet to the home over fibre - all = brought back to a juniper switch. They are run as a co-operative (a for-profit, but structured in such a = way that no one member can create a controlling interest by just buying = shares) =A330 pcm with no fancy features (i.e no mail etc) - just connectivity. Read their business plan - its out there on their website - and (I was = at a meeting with them a few weeks ago, they were presenting their = progress along with a lot of other stuff going on in UK) they are = sticking to it. Ok, they are relatively small (in number) they have an interesting = geography to fill (low population density - by UK standards) - but they = are delivering well. Neil On 1 Oct 2015, at 11:27, Dave Taht wrote: > wow, these folk are doing something right! >=20 > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/1513498 >=20 > They have a really neat deployment model, too. >=20 > http://b4rn.org.uk/ >=20 > /me applauds >=20 > --=20 > Dave T=E4ht > Do you want faster, better, wifi? https://www.patreon.com/dtaht > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat