From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lf1-x12a.google.com (mail-lf1-x12a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::12a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 477833B2A4 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2020 09:39:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-lf1-x12a.google.com with SMTP id d8so4635930lfa.1 for ; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 06:39:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=NKctXJlo42cy8FreTAV9q3LeUMz9mnYvYX/mQmV5VmA=; b=i6oszSbFz6oKv91uApz0irnTQgsspPvqvWqL4r33WUwkFjIPDmHl1JtLx7pJzukKxl PCyny4IDaLTo7CxgkLL3ol0Npd99dsHX7BIKcqNN1+OQoiEpS1TJqeapaIfjGGSveHbo Ecs1DheKxlYftCNt9F79jIOeuuOL4NPM2dNwr9ly9J1Z2xLEjh+EDPtDAkGEs7d4tJT8 iwT4IN6rVAAw8L+d8WWgUwioiYDnRFtE0f7WVGlbefDW20DPBjV9a1bUwgYHZo6JI/xu Hd43Qn0VbczWwnB+4J5Ynj1stGIs4P4w+FYEqQZjEHDS9GZcMmMiMivzg6aKz/cWHWEq 27Lw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=NKctXJlo42cy8FreTAV9q3LeUMz9mnYvYX/mQmV5VmA=; b=YU9usiZDLpKIUJmI/g30fBasvYGXQIVYPKZCv8rGF0Tsvi5m+xDu0e9TQOptjJEA0k 6AW9dTQQLX53252JgAMn3YoVsG+eXFCBwFalF/NlvG6/ZtReuVzqlI3J+2NINgHBZqDU q9HJluJ/78veK9bdkEF6P7PZ5qK9ZEhyK4yZFNeYuIPRixbj8yH8Ol7whltwEmQN4KLi /p+Qtx/50wK6lHynuoNOZ5YPz5Y3TFXbE/kKPOKeidCZP4wDQID31ZzoehMM4n5ZfpbS K3AChZs62m5ZDhiorH1JBrkoYX+0aUUSO5jGY12J5rKvo4qpyj23Gr9tZ8IUvTLIcFlD rqOA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530RCKBZf6M178dtAzECDX7J5YdknsPI1YCStQUxsKzXaOzdWLnP ZbjOSjqMcmDTgjKCuKi3oid9+V1h3bw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyriCtxyU8LZJ4CrjzAEJVHHv0dJBAWL6IwgGuJ5xcFW3Wb0pSFGJ8EEmU1cniGb39BOgbZrg== X-Received: by 2002:a19:7f02:: with SMTP id a2mr1352883lfd.48.1606833553885; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 06:39:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from jonathartonsmbp.lan (178-55-159-67.bb.dnainternet.fi. [178.55.159.67]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p143sm222372lfa.63.2020.12.01.06.39.12 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 01 Dec 2020 06:39:13 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.7\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: <87tut51x3j.fsf@toke.dk> Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 16:39:11 +0200 Cc: Conor Beh , bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <87tut51x3j.fsf@toke.dk> To: =?utf-8?Q?Toke_H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.7) Subject: Re: [Bloat] starlink X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2020 14:39:15 -0000 > On 1 Dec, 2020, at 3:20 pm, Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen via Bloat = wrote: >=20 >> Jim Gettys made a reddit post on r/Starlink asking for data from beta >> testers. I am one of those testers. I spun up an Ubuntu VM and did = three >> runs of flent and rrul as depicted in the getting started page. You = may >> find the results here: >> = https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NIGPpCMrJgi8Pb27t9a9VbVOGzsKLE0K/view?usp= =3Dsharing >=20 > Thanks for sharing! That is some terrible bloat, though! :( I imagine it exists in the uplink device rather than the Starlink = network itself. Distinct upload and download bloat tests would help in = determining whether it's at your end or the remote end. You should be = able to use dslreports.com/speedtest to determine that. - Jonathan Morton=