[Bloat] Another Measurement Program

[Bloat] Another Measurement Program

[Livingood, Jason]

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When it rains, it pours… There's another measurement program focused on fixed wireless (LEO and 5G) - in addition to others I have posted the last few months. Signup is at https://measuringwirelessamerica.com/signup

Personally – looking forward to ~6 months from now when all these various programs start to present papers & share data / results.

Jason

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Re: [Bloat] Another Measurement Program

[Dave Taht]

My principal issue with all this wonderful activity, is I would like,
rather desparately, for all the researchers involved to discuss their
methods, and try to calibrate them against a reference of some kind.
Right now it feels as though we are too often comparing meters to feet
to hippos, which will have devastating effects when attempting to
land.

http://www.taht.net/~mtaht/uncle_bills_helicopter.html

So far the only things I am comfortable with are (of course), flent,
and crusader, and a new entrant from broadband forum that leverages
udp - https://github.com/BroadbandForum/obudpst/issues/9

Rather than be critical of everyone elses tests, I tried to be
critical of my own, here:
https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/flaws_in_flent/

At the moment I have no idea what the apple RPM test is supposed to
measure anymore.

One of the big ones (not) showing up in most data sets is "survivorship bias".

Is anyone testing videoconferencing quality? A mere MOS out of
videoconferencing traffic relative to other load would please me.

On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 8:14 AM Livingood, Jason via Bloat
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> When it rains, it pours… There's another measurement program focused on fixed wireless (LEO and 5G) - in addition to others I have posted the last few months. Signup is at https://measuringwirelessamerica.com/signup
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> Personally – looking forward to ~6 months from now when all these various programs start to present papers & share data / results.
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> Jason
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Re: [Bloat] [EXTERNAL] Re: Another Measurement Program

[Livingood, Jason]

> My principal issue with all this wonderful activity, is I would like,
rather desparately, for all the researchers involved to discuss their
methods, and try to calibrate them against a reference of some kind.

I think researchers & industry are in the 'storming' phase and not yet ready for 'norming', so to speak. It will probably happen in time. As papers come out, it will be helpful to examine methodologies & learn from them to move the state of the art forward. 

> Is anyone testing videoconferencing quality? A mere MOS out of
videoconferencing traffic relative to other load would please me.

I think SamKnows have a video streaming quality test [1]. And IIRC there is research into passive measurement of video streams to infer quality, but I don’t recall any recent papers off hand. 

Jason

[1] See:
https://samknows.com/tests/video-streaming 
https://samknows.com/blog/new-streaming-test
https://samknows.com/blog/critical-services-tracker-video-streaming-uk

Re: [Bloat] Another Measurement Program

[Livingood, Jason]

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FWIW, just heard from Ann and Wesley (cc’d) that they are well below their target numbers (16 signups of a 120 target). So just throwing this out there again….

Jason

From: "Livingood, Jason" <Jason_Livingood@cable.comcast.com>
Date: Monday, February 20, 2023 at 11:14
To: Dave Taht via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Another Measurement Program

When it rains, it pours… There's another measurement program focused on fixed wireless (LEO and 5G) - in addition to others I have posted the last few months. Signup is at https://measuringwirelessamerica.com/signup

Personally – looking forward to ~6 months from now when all these various programs start to present papers & share data / results.

Jason

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Re: [Bloat] Another Measurement Program

[Nathan Owens]

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I signed up on Starlink! The more probes the merrier :)

On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 6:00 AM Livingood, Jason via Bloat <
bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> FWIW, just heard from Ann and Wesley (cc’d) that they are well below their
> target numbers (16 signups of a 120 target). So just throwing this out
> there again….
>
>
>
> Jason
>
>
>
> *From: *"Livingood, Jason" <Jason_Livingood@cable.comcast.com>
> *Date: *Monday, February 20, 2023 at 11:14
> *To: *Dave Taht via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
> *Subject: *Another Measurement Program
>
>
>
> When it rains, it pours… There's another measurement program focused on
> fixed wireless (LEO and 5G) - in addition to others I have posted the last
> few months. Signup is at https://measuringwirelessamerica.com/signup
>
>
>
> Personally – looking forward to ~6 months from now when all these various
> programs start to present papers & share data / results.
>
>
>
> Jason
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