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From: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>
To: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
Cc: "bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net" <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] RED against bufferbloat
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 11:45:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <FCD36093-96C1-49A9-A663-6C1921D0F124@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1502261136250.4007@uplift.swm.pp.se>

Hi Mikael,


On Feb 26, 2015, at 11:39 , Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, MUSCARIELLO Luca IMT/OLN wrote:
> 
>> I wonder when we'll have software routers in residential networks to innovate a little faster than what happens today just like how already happens in some data centers.
> 
> Well, it would help if operators tried to buy CPEs taht were not only bare-minimum for what they need today.

	What is quite ironic is that many operators now switched to charge rental fees for their under-powered, and not timely upgraded devices, rent that could easily be used to purchase far more capable devices (that would actually justify the rental fee).

> 
> Right now I hear more about "virtualised CPE" to save cost (ie move part of the CPE implementation to the data center) than to spend more money on features in the CPE.

	Well, the ingress traffic shaping definitely should be virtualized upstream of the actual CPE!

> 
> My hope is still on the mobile phone SoCs trickling down to the home gateway space so we get more CPU power there at decent price point.

	But do we know whether mobile phone SOCs actually make good routers?

Best Regards
	Sebastian

> 
> Also possibly that the whole SDN movement means hardware will get standardized APIs so in case there is hardware acceleration on the CPE, this can be handled by any kernel and not just the kernel that the vendor has modified to work with their special hardware.
> 
> -- 
> Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-02-26 10:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-24 15:43 sahil grover
2015-02-24 16:13 ` Matt Mathis
2015-02-24 22:39   ` Kathleen Nichols
2015-02-25  6:46 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-25  6:54   ` David Lang
2015-02-25  6:59     ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-25  8:29     ` Alex Elsayed
2015-02-25  8:06   ` Bob Briscoe
2015-02-25  8:42     ` Alex Elsayed
2015-02-25  9:18       ` Michael Welzl
2015-02-25  9:29         ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-02-25 10:10           ` Michael Welzl
2015-02-25 10:24             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-02-25 10:47               ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-25 11:04                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-02-25 18:39                   ` Bill Ver Steeg (versteb)
2015-02-26  9:01                     ` MUSCARIELLO Luca IMT/OLN
2015-02-26 10:39                       ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-26 10:41                         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-02-26 10:44                           ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-26 10:51                             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-02-26 10:59                             ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-02-26 11:12                             ` Jonathan Morton
2015-02-27  0:26                             ` Dave Taht
2015-02-26 10:45                         ` Sebastian Moeller [this message]
2015-02-26 11:34                           ` Jonathan Morton
2015-02-26 12:59                             ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-26 11:26                         ` MUSCARIELLO Luca IMT/OLN
2015-02-26 12:57                           ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-25 13:25                 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-02-25 13:36                   ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-25 13:38                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-02-25 14:05                       ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-25 18:51                         ` Bill Ver Steeg (versteb)
2015-02-25 14:16                     ` MUSCARIELLO Luca IMT/OLN
2015-02-25 16:09                       ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-25 17:34                         ` MUSCARIELLO Luca IMT/OLN
2015-02-25 17:56                           ` Jonathan Morton
2015-02-26 12:54                           ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-26 14:06                             ` MUSCARIELLO Luca IMT/OLN
2015-02-26 14:18                               ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-26 15:18                                 ` MUSCARIELLO Luca IMT/OLN
2015-02-26 17:04                                   ` Dave Taht
2015-02-26 18:07                                     ` Dave Taht
2015-02-26 18:33                                     ` [Bloat] RE : " luca.muscariello
2015-02-26 18:59                                     ` [Bloat] " Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-26 19:44                                       ` Bill Ver Steeg (versteb)
2015-02-26 20:42                                         ` Jonathan Morton
2015-02-26 21:50                                       ` Dave Taht
2015-02-25 16:54                     ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-02-25 10:54               ` Michael Welzl
2015-02-25 11:24                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-02-25 12:08                   ` Jonathan Morton
2015-02-25 19:04                 ` David Lang
2015-02-25 19:30                   ` Michael Welzl
2015-02-25  9:31         ` Alex Elsayed
2015-02-25 10:37           ` Michael Welzl
2015-02-25 10:54             ` Alex Elsayed
2015-02-25 17:28           ` Bob Briscoe
2015-02-25 18:03             ` Dave Taht
2015-02-26  9:36             ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-02-25 17:57     ` Dave Taht
2015-02-25 19:25 Hal Murray
2015-02-25 20:00 ` Jonathan Morton

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