From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp96.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (smtp96.iad3a.emailsrvr.com [173.203.187.96]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 833F03B29E for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:15:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp29.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp29.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8B4F125BB6; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:15:08 -0500 (EST) X-Auth-ID: jf@jonathanfoulkes.com Received: by smtp29.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: jf-AT-jonathanfoulkes.com) with ESMTPSA id 6263825BBE; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:15:08 -0500 (EST) X-Sender-Id: jf@jonathanfoulkes.com Received: from jonathans-mbp.lan (h182.255.140.67.dynamic.ip.windstream.net [67.140.255.182]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:587 (trex/5.7.12); Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:15:08 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) From: Jonathan Foulkes In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:15:07 -0500 Cc: bloat Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Dave Taht X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) Subject: Re: [Bloat] speed - on dslreports? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 22:15:09 -0000 The speed =E2=80=98-=E2=80=98 is a recent change, as the user now needs = to click the =E2=80=98Set Speed=E2=80=99 so the grading can be relative = to the actual line provisioning. BTW- Only registered users can set = that. On my 12mbps Windstream DSL line, I get this result: https://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/8700714 So an A for bloat but an F for speed, guess 12 is not the highest one = can get on DSL (24Mbps is max), so half that and then minus the SQM QoS = headroom (set for 10Mbps down) an actual measured 8.3 rates an F The D rating for =E2=80=98Quality=E2=80=99 bothers me, as it=E2=80=99s = largely a side effect of the AQM pushing back to keep bloat down, and = average people don=E2=80=99t get that, they just think they have a sucky = line. However, this line supports a house full of devices (60+) and two active = work from home hight tech people, it can stream in HD any time of day or = night and VoIP performance is excellent. FB never stalls and big news = sites load quickly and completely. So from a user perspective, this = 12Mbps DSL line is an A considering it=E2=80=99s DSL. We really need a way to grade quality of experience. - Jonathan > On Jan 10, 2017, at 4:34 PM, Dave Taht wrote: >=20 > This is from the first distanc-y test of the latest lede (lacking wifi > ATF tho) on a picostation M2HP, about the lowest end wifi router I > have in the field. >=20 > It's just as lovely as I hoped it would be but I don't know why it has > a "speed -" >=20 > The download is bottlenecked on the wifi, the upload bottlenecked at > the gateway, > on a *very busy network* currently running at 100/10 on comcast. >=20 > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/8695658 >=20 > --=20 > Dave T=C3=A4ht > Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software! > http://blog.cerowrt.org > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat