From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F1EB3B2A4 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2017 10:56:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.10.50] ([93.233.79.61]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MfzEP-1eUa5N2v6D-00NUjQ; Sat, 18 Nov 2017 16:56:08 +0100 To: Ken Birman , 'Dave Taht' Cc: Bob Briscoe , "bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net" References: <4d54f24f-ce83-34a0-41f3-9f728420d548@gmx.net> <87shdr0vt6.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> <79f4d92c-74f4-8cd0-9d38-e51a668cb9b6@gmx.net> <796aa11e-9e35-cf34-e456-6ae98d1875d6@bobbriscoe.net> <87fu9f72za.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> <87po8j5mcz.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> From: Matthias Tafelmeier Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2017 16:56:07 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha384; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9k04wWAqnaCrNoUCod5bcvqO8gStg2qrX" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:5cB1V9ExjSZn+PnL6fc/Ev2U/gEwwHUtaI7LqrGMf33xmysSeht MOHd6w3ypXQqf0da2MxtbGv+36oHzm2JYVaQQ3BZ/OZ3P58Z4ZaRY7zkn8wzwWFoPCfHpHG HF0pwZ/O4thg8CDA9xUYe+j+3f+fOMoR8SqCzUMb+AJIAVS7AcBQxl9TiWf/ISXszVInhUc 1zTzDP4kVcUvstvGg7BBQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:OdcHvauScDw=:3y/tAqiPrdG+X02ARLevaX FyfkeyVlwRPWlXtXAavjUHf4e5MFnGfujoXo79rifgqptIIBgjowZj0ZwDPqhGVRY/K8YMLrD shmjps+gJP9PmiFBC9/ddJDWv+88po/ZT2yhvbBO5QLdsOeX0/CYN+Xv9F9y9kB7eQw+t1tqm cvStmqqE/q0YYoOyBUFDiy7qHayQPVD/rbiApxqGE0ImVnuRrAmBD/4ahMe8ozMahOZkn9ekt X/4rqZtYLYBRrtwyMvl12qa9gNqP3Mv66kFabD945INpYVZ4sVKgfhWWfgnTVLcHS99Xcbjee U9sOub5bOAOVeFHuUIGsQS+OaPg+kA+43yLMlCZZn5UyuJoAqDKrnw9lJabjQ2FrtaKIuW8vR QsJgvz0NU+8SebVphoQszJ222WPQ845bRwsnVhzYmt9I6jwX54eGkJLG7ewmHMTQlm3BW2OnJ nCMN2QlnBb4v3SiUZD+mFMJtBm2bpfWVbydKijmd3sfD6r/xlF3hTal/LEKVoo3lx0pcwhmzT gxGOZDPVhMzJKGuWIMtI86SbXUJROB4HDeKX9DnLA9+EcZeyhkDN5SqJasc33BtlHzg8nE8bz U+mDEsEyAIxq4tOeeYqFHWk77z1kLcgDlsX6qroxLICPi/F/9R72CGxhssidEW4Ga3QcIrzLL Ovzwb9ficMVV1E2y21nGmKsaJ2TFa8MijQ5hbHh/EeLUBDnpdWaqhWETjLFq/kPnGnbQaAH/u 7ZnmkyrB2gJBtAXAstEEsAq3+LAd/32FkAmHA55SsIfUWmb9iYN6guE65yWTymCMS/CTo1VN/ jTM+rFkItNQmfe1+8cQEFHBnhNjHA== Subject: Re: [Bloat] DETNET X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2017 15:56:53 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --9k04wWAqnaCrNoUCod5bcvqO8gStg2qrX Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="8mVGQC5DnDC3mpS4WpawWTpNQA9BAo5JH"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthias Tafelmeier To: Ken Birman , 'Dave Taht' Cc: Bob Briscoe , "bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net" Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Bloat] DETNET References: <4d54f24f-ce83-34a0-41f3-9f728420d548@gmx.net> <87shdr0vt6.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> <79f4d92c-74f4-8cd0-9d38-e51a668cb9b6@gmx.net> <796aa11e-9e35-cf34-e456-6ae98d1875d6@bobbriscoe.net> <87fu9f72za.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> <87po8j5mcz.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> In-Reply-To: --8mVGQC5DnDC3mpS4WpawWTpNQA9BAo5JH Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------D0C9BFBE747134F147081FDB" Content-Language: de-DE This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D0C9BFBE747134F147081FDB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello > We would love to have users who are intent on breaking everything... = all open source, no weird IP or anything, no plan to commercialize it. > > Ken I'm certain there is, a small impediment rather seems to be the hardware prereq. One does need a RDMA cabable NIC at least at the edge nodes - and only Mellanox does manufactor those atm., afaik. 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