From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; dkim=pass header.d=swm.pp.se header.i=@swm.pp.se header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=mail header.b=sLUF61KI; arc=none (Message is not ARC signed); dmarc=pass (Used From Domain Record) header.from=swm.pp.se policy.dmarc=none Received: from uplift.swm.pp.se (swm.pp.se [IPv6:2001:678:394:100::1:168]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F046C138312C for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2026 19:15:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: by uplift.swm.pp.se (Postfix, from userid 501) id 527E3B0; Thu, 23 Jul 2026 19:15:27 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=swm.pp.se; s=mail; t=1784826927; bh=SuXYpPeJeSStQgWhhMyUJGyOgov/+OVI2yAEJWL3I28=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=sLUF61KI0eoAUiIrp8yzSiD4QzgNmd1S0cwijBlBx9md+ahwosTclay0SV5poe1Xv 4YBA76SXAiABPqOb4StoLlm3zQPS51VvYxx05iqZpYAKCBQZxWrwUj2LIvUfYoqKXq nKoMK+JKtN85jQuXaWgNRsjRxio3egLDEa0yvzzM= Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by uplift.swm.pp.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F6F09F for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2026 19:15:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2026 19:15:27 +0200 (CEST) From: Mikael Abrahamsson To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net Message-ID: Organization: People's Front Against WWW MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID-Hash: JPJY3XOKRUE7A67XIZZS5CJ5IF4K7TSD X-Message-ID-Hash: JPJY3XOKRUE7A67XIZZS5CJ5IF4K7TSD X-MailFrom: swmike@swm.pp.se X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; loop; banned-address; emergency; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.10 Precedence: list Subject: [Bloat] IETF proposal for provisioning ISP ratelimiter rate to RG List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-giese-dhcp-rate-signaling/ https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/int-area/?gbt=1&page=1&qdr=m This might be of interest to people on this list, as the age old trick of manually creating a shaper with slightly below ISP configured speed, and then running AQM in it to avoid the ISP FIFO now could automatically be enabled by means of the ISP informing the RG of said rate. Above is a link to mailing list discussion I started right after the int-area presentation. -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se