From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from sonic317-24.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (sonic317-24.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.66.150]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 816F73B29E for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2019 19:50:53 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rogers.com; s=s2048; t=1547254251; bh=yFGiEoURQ/hkDAQNpTw4czdC91baoBCJR03a1nynZJ0=; h=From:Subject:Reply-To:To:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=a7VnmYUaVjwOlEKU87ymrhLE2x2NINX9KON0GYIOmodtGlJNwl3p3vNRakfeWgIPcqwbX2Ck4XIQzS0+ZTbwAVIUhW37l3ai0uhm4BmfBOAvL877+7wgWExw6Xx/3ixauQDegxh8YefnNvlnKUoZbvcfa5Pfv6iWZOsBwWsD0pypDqGykBCTdBQ6HpqGzhJdeAOKAvOYfhHmzdOEFhNp5plou9fjtHOhcaPeqTNtV/yPQJrcKJva72MsfbuaeKxGq7MhqY0MXz/HpqcZUH0T5ufBWDudQUPvTpuGdIK5Ny2XyiQxDrB6Rz4ZxxaGTOv2+QEWCiIFNvF3lfSxbrO5UA== X-YMail-OSG: XjDIVToVM1nZSiKsx1qb7WMJGNRvLe47CarR33FtpF3VDewP2_Ezh1EohSd9NB5 _uG0wNL173O7z_KYgqhqN8d.pScJzFzima8RC4UwDrLT86WY8KMrq5g3RpX9_Fzbaj4V8EWjAF4A kbFov0jqIyXH07X4DgW_pgu0.3T.JKtFRfrcEiWjGWYEAHD9.g2umO.4sCC3gzQtPL0D8fL3jEVR y8hEoYJ3db.Talfml8E7Mcp3Z1Uv8tm5YkzuADnTsYmjpfTtDbFNn6rR6XRyHSGl9vOdITJdDOy5 XKS0El1Fhp07Rlzsei6LUMb2Qaj2wapr6qw4nT.qsmA153wQwntRHf4TbKV4YAqfeeCN1_knOarx TtDv7_JXqqmyT1MlD_lYY.Unf1pTGM8IQe0XcDZs71SCe4_y6ScxauYpvMRSqoRlwwW5ckCX4m7h cRiRvgkaHU.J2f_LBK2HYoLzvq2SmTRENvzQBTbwdNrMuQXcVuQJv8NwsaT3Cj6v2lgavswnV_Rm AANr48y.yYeeZlfxXq4kp9mZepYChTMgRhcJSOiduY_yqCkHeCY6SqRktvOt4AlmgShDsoFiUeX_ 9BwKt0m60Ou1PieFZRFLSjRG76Kgk.Q_I05ct9kbBsLID5OxqNLCl6dumS_20.XNAjVmK.u7E45a U8Ir37hK2Y8EebXd.5CUPPYct8AA1sdqxbZmlCMYMDvAamOOarOcOThebkxswpdDDdFAqktJFSsl WbFaMUo4wd1xdQYlqCgTBRa4qLcFC5tx47VWDqxlI8s396h06_6vZM7.7agy1XczJqledk8bWyeY ahMrFek0XkCvh16Ne5Us2KQ6m9jKfPdGxKe9qrFgUx2A6PQY3p7PvF7994yws_2GvWouXFshvlUH zNYRGX9JYVlgu_A2ZaMK2Ww80kCW6Bw-- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic317.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 12 Jan 2019 00:50:51 +0000 Received: from CPEbc4dfba21363-CMbc4dfba21360.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com (EHLO [192.168.0.14]) ([99.240.251.181]) by smtp432.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 074059d5c7dd2c98bcdbf3e1360d18be; Sat, 12 Jan 2019 00:50:47 +0000 (UTC) From: David Collier-Brown Reply-To: davecb@spamcop.net To: "bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net" References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 19:50:46 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Subject: Re: [Bloat] usa bufferbloat X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 00:50:53 -0000 I wonder what Tek Savvy is like?  They're a Canadian ISP, based in my old home town, providing their last-mile service over lined controlled by the doupoly (Bell and the local cable monopoly). I know they're smart enough to want to minimize bloat, but I don't know how constrained they are. Anybody in this discussion a customer of theirs? --dave [Resent from my home email, as work isn't subscribed] On 2019-01-11 4:25 p.m., Dave Taht wrote: > I wish I knew what the "good" ISPs were doing, because there are none > in the US still. > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/results/bufferbloat?up=1 -- David Collier-Brown, | Always do right. This will gratify System Programmer and Author | some people and astonish the rest davecb@spamcop.net | -- Mark Twain