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On Thu, 25 Sep 2014, David Lang wrote:

> What is the problem with making this assumption? Why should we try to 
> change every device on the Internet to provide this information instead 
> of just using this as the default?

Read the email that started this thread.

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Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se