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From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
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Subject: Re: [Bloat] I feel an urge to update this
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On Thu, 25 Sep 2014, Rick Jones wrote:

> Well, there has been such a thing present in TCP from "The Beginning" 
> though not named as such.  Such a client could always advertise a 
> smaller (initial) receive window...  One which would allow only IW3 or 
> whatever value was appropriate.

I'm sure there are ways to solve this, but my take from the "TCP people" 
was that there was not seen to be any need to do anything else than what 
is done today, ie all TCP connections are self contained and learns 
nothing from each other.

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Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se