From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from uplift.swm.pp.se (swm.pp.se [212.247.200.143]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BBDD521F115 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 2015 05:36:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by uplift.swm.pp.se (Postfix, from userid 501) id 68B07A4; Wed, 25 Feb 2015 14:36:38 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=swm.pp.se; s=mail; t=1424871398; bh=QiXfCWdA6YubSxIXVzHzSIJydhHBtIwPN7fCW+0fDu0=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=CVZXNcR1g0vKPp13k6jv3RFvf0tTHaCDcyGITH5GQejXsxkqZtbloKu5pD6fJ2yFZ zIorC8w6Rl/6jOcgrqvjKm3kPUEBtgWEXJKysnS+Z3TpuTJyKAI77sYfe7Rdm1oyq1 SAznyN7zkMQtirL57MBB9o2XNP4ZOBrFUmLuvZ2M= Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by uplift.swm.pp.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C21A3; Wed, 25 Feb 2015 14:36:38 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 14:36:38 +0100 (CET) From: Mikael Abrahamsson To: Sebastian Moeller In-Reply-To: <1D438EDC-358D-4DD5-9B8D-89182256F66C@gmx.de> Message-ID: References: <201502250806.t1P86o5N011632@bagheera.jungle.bt.co.uk> <4A80D1F9-F4A1-4D14-AC75-958C5A2E8168@gmx.de> <3F47B274-B0E4-44F2-A434-E3C9F7D5D041@ifi.uio.no> <87twyaffv3.fsf@toke.dk> <1D438EDC-358D-4DD5-9B8D-89182256F66C@gmx.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) Organization: People's Front Against WWW MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-137064504-1721826416-1424871398=:4007" Cc: "bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net" Subject: Re: [Bloat] RED against bufferbloat X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 13:37:10 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---137064504-1721826416-1424871398=:4007 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Wed, 25 Feb 2015, Sebastian Moeller wrote: > The only argument for ingress shaping on the CPE is that this > allows the end user to define her own QOS criteria independent of the > ISPs wishes. Best of both worlds would be user configurable QOS-shaping > on the slam/bras/whatever… As I said before, doing FQ_CODEL in the AR is an expensive proposition for medium and high speed access. So if this could successfully be pushed to the CPE it would mean it would be more widely deployed. I am very much aware that this is being done (I have done it myself), but my question was if someone had actually done this in a lab and found out how well it works in RRUL tests etc. -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se ---137064504-1721826416-1424871398=:4007--