On Wed, 25 Feb 2015, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: > So you mean comparing the scenario where the AQM runs on both sides of > the bottleneck to one where it runs as an ingress shaper on one side > only? Yes. How much lower speed/rate would the CPE ingress (internet->CPE) AQM have to run at to have a reasonable low probability of traffic being delayed by that shaper (or dropped by the policer). I realise this would be different depending on speed of the access, but some data points would be interesting. For instance, some ISPs I've heard will have a policer and 2 seconds worth of burst, before they drop packets. Some others might have lower burst values. Some will have a pretty decent FIFO shaper. There are some different scenarios, how much lower speed do I need to run my AQM at in order to try to avoid this policer or shaper to affect my traffic? Gut feeling would be 10-20% should be enough, but I don't know. -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se