From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: "bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net" <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] RED against bufferbloat
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 19:59:19 +0100 (CET) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1502261952450.4007@uplift.swm.pp.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw6zvB+ip4wFc2enNjnE+U7fvFzT4XFKzKP0V-3rgfkF2g@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, Dave Taht wrote:
> First, everyone saying that fq_codel can't be done in hardware is
> *wrong* See my last point far below, I know I write over-long emails...
What do you define as "hardware"?
> YES, at the lowest level of the hardware, where packets turn into light
> or fuzzy electrons, or need to be tied up in a an aggregate (as in
> cable) and shipped onto the wire, you can't do it. BUT, as BQL has
I am talking about doing this in the NPUs that are available on the
market today and in the future.
We're talking about these kinds of devices:
http://www.tilera.com/News/PressRelease/?ezchip=97
I'm afraid that your experience with CPU driven devices isn't a great
match here, and we're talking past each other.
I would love to be able to use my employers purchasing power to drive
demand on AQM, but I need to know what the requirements are, and that
they're feasable to do, preferrably with an engineering effort for the
vendor in the range of few man years. I can't produce this document
myself, I have already tried pointing them in the direction of
presentations etc, but I need "hard" documents, outlining exactly what
they need to do.
Do we have this currently? In that case, whereto should I point them?
--
Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se
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2015-02-24 15:43 sahil grover
2015-02-24 16:13 ` Matt Mathis
2015-02-24 22:39 ` Kathleen Nichols
2015-02-25 6:46 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-25 6:54 ` David Lang
2015-02-25 6:59 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-25 8:29 ` Alex Elsayed
2015-02-25 8:06 ` Bob Briscoe
2015-02-25 8:42 ` Alex Elsayed
2015-02-25 9:18 ` Michael Welzl
2015-02-25 9:29 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-02-25 10:10 ` Michael Welzl
2015-02-25 10:24 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-02-25 10:47 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-25 11:04 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-02-25 18:39 ` Bill Ver Steeg (versteb)
2015-02-26 9:01 ` MUSCARIELLO Luca IMT/OLN
2015-02-26 10:39 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-26 10:41 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-02-26 10:44 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-26 10:51 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-02-26 10:59 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-02-26 11:12 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-02-27 0:26 ` Dave Taht
2015-02-26 10:45 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-02-26 11:34 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-02-26 12:59 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-26 11:26 ` MUSCARIELLO Luca IMT/OLN
2015-02-26 12:57 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-25 13:25 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-02-25 13:36 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-25 13:38 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-02-25 14:05 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-25 18:51 ` Bill Ver Steeg (versteb)
2015-02-25 14:16 ` MUSCARIELLO Luca IMT/OLN
2015-02-25 16:09 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-25 17:34 ` MUSCARIELLO Luca IMT/OLN
2015-02-25 17:56 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-02-26 12:54 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-26 14:06 ` MUSCARIELLO Luca IMT/OLN
2015-02-26 14:18 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-26 15:18 ` MUSCARIELLO Luca IMT/OLN
2015-02-26 17:04 ` Dave Taht
2015-02-26 18:07 ` Dave Taht
2015-02-26 18:33 ` [Bloat] RE : " luca.muscariello
2015-02-26 18:59 ` Mikael Abrahamsson [this message]
2015-02-26 19:44 ` [Bloat] " Bill Ver Steeg (versteb)
2015-02-26 20:42 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-02-26 21:50 ` Dave Taht
2015-02-25 16:54 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-02-25 10:54 ` Michael Welzl
2015-02-25 11:24 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-02-25 12:08 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-02-25 19:04 ` David Lang
2015-02-25 19:30 ` Michael Welzl
2015-02-25 9:31 ` Alex Elsayed
2015-02-25 10:37 ` Michael Welzl
2015-02-25 10:54 ` Alex Elsayed
2015-02-25 17:28 ` Bob Briscoe
2015-02-25 18:03 ` Dave Taht
2015-02-26 9:36 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-02-25 17:57 ` Dave Taht
2015-02-25 19:25 Hal Murray
2015-02-25 20:00 ` Jonathan Morton
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