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From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: "bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net" <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] RED against bufferbloat
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 19:59:19 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1502261952450.4007@uplift.swm.pp.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw6zvB+ip4wFc2enNjnE+U7fvFzT4XFKzKP0V-3rgfkF2g@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, Dave Taht wrote:

> First, everyone saying that fq_codel can't be done in hardware is 
> *wrong* See my last point far below, I know I write over-long emails...

What do you define as "hardware"?

> YES, at the lowest level of the hardware, where packets turn into light 
> or fuzzy electrons, or need to be tied up in a an aggregate (as in 
> cable) and shipped onto the wire, you can't do it. BUT, as BQL has

I am talking about doing this in the NPUs that are available on the 
market today and in the future.

We're talking about these kinds of devices:

http://www.tilera.com/News/PressRelease/?ezchip=97

I'm afraid that your experience with CPU driven devices isn't a great 
match here, and we're talking past each other.

I would love to be able to use my employers purchasing power to drive 
demand on AQM, but I need to know what the requirements are, and that 
they're feasable to do, preferrably with an engineering effort for the 
vendor in the range of few man years. I can't produce this document 
myself, I have already tried pointing them in the direction of 
presentations etc, but I need "hard" documents, outlining exactly what 
they need to do.

Do we have this currently? In that case, whereto should I point them?

-- 
Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-02-26 18:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-24 15:43 sahil grover
2015-02-24 16:13 ` Matt Mathis
2015-02-24 22:39   ` Kathleen Nichols
2015-02-25  6:46 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-25  6:54   ` David Lang
2015-02-25  6:59     ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-25  8:29     ` Alex Elsayed
2015-02-25  8:06   ` Bob Briscoe
2015-02-25  8:42     ` Alex Elsayed
2015-02-25  9:18       ` Michael Welzl
2015-02-25  9:29         ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-02-25 10:10           ` Michael Welzl
2015-02-25 10:24             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-02-25 10:47               ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-25 11:04                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-02-25 18:39                   ` Bill Ver Steeg (versteb)
2015-02-26  9:01                     ` MUSCARIELLO Luca IMT/OLN
2015-02-26 10:39                       ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-26 10:41                         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-02-26 10:44                           ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-26 10:51                             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-02-26 10:59                             ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-02-26 11:12                             ` Jonathan Morton
2015-02-27  0:26                             ` Dave Taht
2015-02-26 10:45                         ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-02-26 11:34                           ` Jonathan Morton
2015-02-26 12:59                             ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-26 11:26                         ` MUSCARIELLO Luca IMT/OLN
2015-02-26 12:57                           ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-25 13:25                 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-02-25 13:36                   ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-25 13:38                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-02-25 14:05                       ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-25 18:51                         ` Bill Ver Steeg (versteb)
2015-02-25 14:16                     ` MUSCARIELLO Luca IMT/OLN
2015-02-25 16:09                       ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-25 17:34                         ` MUSCARIELLO Luca IMT/OLN
2015-02-25 17:56                           ` Jonathan Morton
2015-02-26 12:54                           ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-26 14:06                             ` MUSCARIELLO Luca IMT/OLN
2015-02-26 14:18                               ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-02-26 15:18                                 ` MUSCARIELLO Luca IMT/OLN
2015-02-26 17:04                                   ` Dave Taht
2015-02-26 18:07                                     ` Dave Taht
2015-02-26 18:33                                     ` [Bloat] RE : " luca.muscariello
2015-02-26 18:59                                     ` Mikael Abrahamsson [this message]
2015-02-26 19:44                                       ` [Bloat] " Bill Ver Steeg (versteb)
2015-02-26 20:42                                         ` Jonathan Morton
2015-02-26 21:50                                       ` Dave Taht
2015-02-25 16:54                     ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-02-25 10:54               ` Michael Welzl
2015-02-25 11:24                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-02-25 12:08                   ` Jonathan Morton
2015-02-25 19:04                 ` David Lang
2015-02-25 19:30                   ` Michael Welzl
2015-02-25  9:31         ` Alex Elsayed
2015-02-25 10:37           ` Michael Welzl
2015-02-25 10:54             ` Alex Elsayed
2015-02-25 17:28           ` Bob Briscoe
2015-02-25 18:03             ` Dave Taht
2015-02-26  9:36             ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-02-25 17:57     ` Dave Taht
2015-02-25 19:25 Hal Murray
2015-02-25 20:00 ` Jonathan Morton

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