Re: [Bloat] [aqm] ping loss "considered harmful"

[Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>]

On Sun, 1 Mar 2015, Dave Taht wrote:

> but wow, it never occurred to me - in all these years - that ping was 
> the next core metric on simple tests. I can be really dumb.
>
> How can we fix this user perception, short of re-prioritizing ping in
> sqm-scripts?

People will make all kinds of judgement calls based on things that are not 
very relevant.

Some people think a traceroute with few hops in it to be better than one 
with more hops in it. So a lot of providers use their MPLS networks and 
make the intermediate nodes not show up in traceroute.

I don't know how many times I have experienced people have used PING and 
opened trouble tickets when a core router had ICMP ping packet loss (even 
though all core router platforms have rate limiters for ICMP).

When you say that you de-prioritize ping, do you mean only ECHO REQUEST 
and ECHO REPLY, or do you mean all ICMP? Perhaps a solution would be to 
assure 5% of the link bandwidth for ICMP?

-- 
Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se