From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from bifrost.lang.hm (mail.lang.hm [64.81.33.126]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2228721F265 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 07:26:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asgard.lang.hm (asgard.lang.hm [10.0.0.100]) by bifrost.lang.hm (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id t3LEPv66020239; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 07:25:57 -0700 Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 07:25:57 -0700 (PDT) From: David Lang X-X-Sender: dlang@asgard.lang.hm To: jb In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <75C1DDFF-FBD2-4825-A167-92DFCF6A7713@gmail.com> <8AD4493E-EA21-496D-923D-B4257B078A1C@gmx.de> <8E4F61CA-4274-4414-B4C0-F582167D66D6@gmx.de> <2C987A4B-7459-43C1-A49C-72F600776B00@gmail.com> <14cd9e74e48.27f7.e972a4f4d859b00521b2b659602cb2f9@superduper.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/Mixed; BOUNDARY="680960-939992269-1429626018=:26044" Content-ID: Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] DSLReports Speed Test has latency measurement built-in X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 14:26:30 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --680960-939992269-1429626018=:26044 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; FORMAT=flowed; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: On Tue, 21 Apr 2015, David Lang wrote: >> I suspect you guys are going to say the server should be left with a large >> max receive window.. and let people complain to find out what their issue >> is. > > what is your customer base? how important is it to provide faster service to > teh fiber users? Are they transferring ISO images so the difference is > significant to them? or are they downloading web pages where it's the > difference between a half second and a quarter second? remember that you are > seeing this on the upload side. > > in the long run, fixing the problem at the client side is the best thing to > do, but in the meantime, you sometimes have to work around broken customer > stuff. for the speedtest servers, it should be set large, the purpose is to test the quality of the customer stuff, so you don't want to do anything on your end that papers over the problem, only to have the customer think things are good and experience problems when connecting to another server that doesn't implement work-arounds. David Lang --680960-939992269-1429626018=:26044 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii Content-ID: Content-Description: Content-Disposition: INLINE _______________________________________________ Bloat mailing list Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat --680960-939992269-1429626018=:26044--