From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from bifrost.lang.hm (mail.lang.hm [64.81.33.126]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45E6821F1EF for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 13:24:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asgard.lang.hm (asgard.lang.hm [10.0.0.100]) by bifrost.lang.hm (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id t3SKO2Ww030959; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 13:24:02 -0700 Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 13:24:02 -0700 (PDT) From: David Lang X-X-Sender: dlang@asgard.lang.hm To: jb In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/Mixed; BOUNDARY="===============2007060453814376214==" Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] the dslreports png X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 20:25:20 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --===============2007060453814376214== Content-Type: TEXT/Plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Wed, 29 Apr 2015, jb wrote: > I agree! but I don't want to rush. What latency should substitute? average? > median? latency during upload? download? both? should it be the excess over > idle ping, expressed as a multiplier? an absolute value? an absolute value of excess over idle (see the other discussion about jitter) median +- range would be ideal as that could cover both upload and download > Most people as in 98% of people who use this test do so without any > reference to instructions the forums or anything else and all of them > "expect" to see latency > pings that are similar to speedtest.net measure of how close the speed test > server is. In this case, we need something like: latency base + value[+-] loaded David Lang > And I haven't even sorted out the latency bugs. I just now asked the nginx > development list why IE11 has problems doing http pings because it does > a weird two-step of high-normal-high-normal, but when talking to nginx only! > it behaves ok when talking to google.com. > > There is a jsfiddle you can play with to see the problem (I hope!) > http://jsfiddle.net/qe44nbwh/ > change nginx.org to google.com, using IE11. (other browsers work fine) > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:23 AM, Dave Taht wrote: > >> http://dfkrkqaqb1zsx.cloudfront.net/speedtest/cdn/377727.png >> >> is showing the base latency without load. It would be more effective >> if it showed the >> latency with load. >> >> -- >> Dave Täht >> Open Networking needs **Open Source Hardware** >> >> https://plus.google.com/u/0/+EricRaymond/posts/JqxCe2pFr67 >> > --===============2007060453814376214== Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii Content-ID: Content-Description: Content-Disposition: INLINE _______________________________________________ Bloat mailing list Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat --===============2007060453814376214==--