From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from uplift.swm.pp.se (swm.pp.se [212.247.200.143]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B384521F1F7 for ; Sun, 17 May 2015 22:46:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by uplift.swm.pp.se (Postfix, from userid 501) id 1E1BAA2; Mon, 18 May 2015 07:46:34 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=swm.pp.se; s=mail; t=1431927994; bh=XnB3OmAZnPpwlkiLKvnKRONvLWFASrn12VBMJmSVSwE=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=MESH8s/Ld3HbU8WwMNBx9Xskw8WrVRlocXOY+dkTretd0HM93fSnkq6z4EmW/4feq yrxUQfTHzauw5hk3HhSQRxOj0k/aHXaTZ6TMGA/K8MlSyfUUqjz4lysiHTkCNNQdED UnSqKpuMCLJj531BN1psyf155Og0/G6EhicjMOmI= Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by uplift.swm.pp.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15557A1; Mon, 18 May 2015 07:46:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 07:46:34 +0200 (CEST) From: Mikael Abrahamsson To: Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant In-Reply-To: <905D3263-3F21-4BF0-A827-A29E98B8AA8F@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> Message-ID: References: <55552014.2010808@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> <5555AB46.5010508@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> <905D3263-3F21-4BF0-A827-A29E98B8AA8F@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) Organization: People's Front Against WWW MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] tc -s qdisc questions X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 05:47:07 -0000 On Sun, 17 May 2015, Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant wrote: > Thanks Mikael - some ECN tweakage in progress. I'll see which bits of > the Internet I use break :-) I have been running this on my macbook for almost 2 years (since I got it): $ cat /etc/sysctl.conf net.inet.tcp.ecn_initiate_out=1 net.inet.tcp.ecn_negotiate_in=1 and this on my linux server for 5+ years: $ cat /etc/sysctl.conf | grep -i ecn net.ipv4.tcp_ecn = 1 I used the same on my previous Ubuntu based laptop for 5+ years. I have yet to encounter any ECN related breakage. I have had significant problems with IPv6 PMTUD blackholing, but no ECN related problems. I had ECN related problems back in 2001 (or whenever it was) when Linux first introduced it due to a lot of firewalls being very paranoid about it, but then I turned it back on again 5-7 years ago and by then all problems were gone. -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se