From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from uplift.swm.pp.se (swm.pp.se [212.247.200.143]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9374121F869 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 2015 05:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by uplift.swm.pp.se (Postfix, from userid 501) id C41B1A1; Wed, 23 Sep 2015 14:23:47 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=swm.pp.se; s=mail; t=1443011027; bh=drwfc3GkG5RRsOWI3VbBE5GggyhALK9liS4+rHb3MJQ=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=LDbotHB//RoP0/EPGjPJ8Z3Wu1waFQLJWj8YilHB7K048Xq1j7n6FLYHvTwz1womJ hAd/mIvTjh8wHe4yQr0mSO0hm6rcfHwYeSZmrKOEdD23d2LkBZ5c/BrqNpxodylsTC iZDe2u4aMJgtG5a8DmnagJQsGD2i7ejAQ62ZEjCk= Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by uplift.swm.pp.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0BE69F; Wed, 23 Sep 2015 14:23:47 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 14:23:47 +0200 (CEST) From: Mikael Abrahamsson To: Benjamin Cronce In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) Organization: People's Front Against WWW MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] bloat at gigE X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 12:24:14 -0000 On Wed, 23 Sep 2015, Benjamin Cronce wrote: > The upload wasn't even saturated. Probably why upload bloat was very low. > Large bloat on the download just shows you the server really can push more > than 1Gb. 200ms bloat with 913Mb down is about 20MiB of buffer. That's > insane! That's about 20x more buffer than my entire 24 port 1Gb Procurve > managed switch. What kind of network equipment has that much buffer? That's typically one distinction between L3 switch and a "router". The L3 switch typically has on-die memory that can be as low as 128KB or up to a few megabytes of memory. Then you have the real "service edge" routers with 128.000 queues that's used to aggregate tens of thousands of customers, where a linecard can have many gigabytes of packet buffer memory. -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se