From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from bifrost.lang.hm (lang.hm [66.167.227.134]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE99C3B2A2 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 15:30:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from asgard.lang.hm (asgard.lang.hm [10.0.0.100]) by bifrost.lang.hm (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id u9RJUcnt003752; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 12:30:38 -0700 Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 12:30:38 -0700 (PDT) From: David Lang X-X-Sender: dlang@asgard.lang.hm To: Dave Taht cc: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Jonas_M=E5rtensson?= , bloat In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <5a2d4224-3f4e-80f0-3b0b-b2fbbdd59697@gmail.com> <77a4abf0-bc94-0d2e-eebe-d72e2e676255@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [Bloat] 22 seconds til bloat on gfiber? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 19:30:42 -0000 On Thu, 27 Oct 2016, Dave Taht wrote: > I am curious if studies exists of the actual consumption in typical > 100mbit and above plans, vs 20Mbit, here and worldwide. Again, my > thesis is, aside from business (and bittorrent) users, your typical > 250mbit plan would have very close to the same consumption as the > 100mbit plan. They'd use up 250mbits for a couple hours a month, but > that's it. > > I am increasingly convinced that without a killer application that requires it, > we've hit "peak bandwidth". You sound like my College Professor from the early 90's who said that the networks were now going to be so fast that there was no way that users would need all the available bandwidth, and that it was up to the students in the class to invent new uses :-) Then the web happened. any declaration of 'peak bandwidth' is only a temporary state. David Lang