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From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
To: Benjamin Cronce <bcronce@gmail.com>
Cc: bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] fixing bufferbloat in 2017
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 18:31:38 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1611231829220.3558@uplift.swm.pp.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ_ENFFSrSidq1XSD=eOXXtzoY5aiuWaGSC4jBUnXdBCbhTdjw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 23 Nov 2016, Benjamin Cronce wrote:

> If there is a simple affordable solution, say Open/DD-WRT distro based 
> bridge that all you do is configure your up/down bandwidth and it 
> applies Codel/fq-Codel/Cake, then all you need to do is drive up 
> awareness. A good channel for awareness would be getting in contact with 
> popular Twitch or YouTube gaming streamers. But I wouldn't put much 
> effort into driving up awareness until there is a device that people can 
> easily acquire, use, and afford. At first I was thinking of telling 
> people to use *-WRT supporting routers, but changing the firmware on 
> your router requires too much research, and many people care about 
> bleeding edge features. You need something that works in tangent with 
> whatever they are using.

If Comcast sells you 100/20 (I have no idea if this is a thing), you set 
your upstream on this box to 18 meg fq_codel, and then Comcast 
oversubscribes you so you only get 15 meg up part of the time, then you're 
still bloated by the modem. This is not a solution.

I don't think "buy $thing, install *WRT on it, configure it like this" is 
above most gamers, but I'm afraid we don't even have a working solution 
for someone with that kind of skillset.

-- 
Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-23 17:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-22 15:32 Dave Taht
2016-11-22 16:19 ` Jan Ceuleers
2016-11-22 16:25   ` Dave Taht
2016-11-22 16:38     ` Jim Gettys
2016-11-23  8:28     ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2016-11-23 11:04       ` Jonathan Morton
2016-11-23 11:59       ` Kelvin Edmison
2016-11-23 13:31         ` Pedro Tumusok
2016-11-23 14:05           ` Mário Sérgio Fujikawa Ferreira
2016-11-23 17:20           ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2016-11-23 17:27             ` Benjamin Cronce
2016-11-23 17:31               ` Mikael Abrahamsson [this message]
2016-11-23 17:40                 ` Sebastian Moeller
2016-11-23 17:50                 ` Noah Causin
2016-11-23 17:56                   ` David Lang
2016-11-23 18:05                     ` Benjamin Cronce
2016-11-23 18:38                       ` David Lang
2016-11-23 19:29                         ` Benjamin Cronce
2016-11-23 19:42                           ` David Lang
2016-11-23 20:20                             ` Dave Taht
2016-11-23 17:54                 ` David Lang
2016-11-23 18:09                   ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2016-11-23 18:18                     ` Sebastian Moeller
2016-11-23 18:24                       ` Dave Taht
2016-11-23 20:39                         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-11-23 19:13                       ` David Lang
2016-11-23 18:17                   ` Dave Taht
2016-11-23 15:32 ` Pedretti Fabio
2016-11-23 19:29   ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-11-23 19:22 ` Dave Taht
     [not found] <mailman.447.1479909940.3555.bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2016-11-23 18:16 ` Rich Brown
2016-11-23 18:46   ` David Lang
2016-11-23 18:58     ` Jonathan Morton
2016-11-23 19:15       ` David Lang
2016-11-23 20:37       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
     [not found] <mailman.454.1479929363.3555.bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2016-11-26 15:33 ` [Bloat] Fixing " Rich Brown
2016-11-27  1:53   ` Aaron Wood
2016-11-27  6:10     ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2016-11-27 21:24   ` Dave Taht
2016-11-28  2:11     ` Kathleen Nichols
2016-11-28  2:16       ` Jim Gettys
2016-11-28  6:00         ` Jan Ceuleers
2016-11-28 12:48           ` David Collier-Brown
2016-11-28 15:12             ` Dave Taht
2016-11-28 15:23               ` Wesley Eddy
2016-11-28 15:35                 ` Dave Taht
2016-11-28 16:58                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-11-28 17:07                     ` Dave Taht
2016-11-28 19:02                       ` Jonathan Morton
2016-11-28 17:52                     ` Kathleen Nichols
2016-11-28 15:14             ` Pedro Tumusok
2016-11-28 15:23               ` Dave Taht
2016-11-28 15:10           ` Dave Taht
2016-11-28  2:47       ` David Lang

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