From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from bifrost.lang.hm (lang.hm [66.167.227.134]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 473F93B260 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 14:40:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from asgard.lang.hm (asgard.lang.hm [10.0.0.100]) by bifrost.lang.hm (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id uASJeuIu018571; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 11:40:56 -0800 Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 11:40:56 -0800 (PST) From: David Lang X-X-Sender: dlang@asgard.lang.hm To: davecb@spamcop.net cc: Simon Barber , bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <836b6c89-d7a0-49e1-e1b4-8e98b9263c1d@pollere.com> <8A0CE391-C77E-4B3F-B2B0-7F9FDDB8DFCF@superduper.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/Mixed; BOUNDARY="===============4825678110956408768==" Subject: Re: [Bloat] How to "sell" improvement X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 19:40:59 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --===============4825678110956408768== Content-Type: TEXT/Plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 28 Nov 2016, David Collier-Brown wrote: > Yes, especially for > > * the performance-reporting tools' own page and also for > * some well-known, moderately complex ones. > > Not the minimalist Google front page, but perhaps a particular query... First off, can we get people to nominate candidate pages? Then, let's see if we can make a simulator for that page, so the test won't break when the website gets updated, something that has the same serialization issues hitting multiple sites and fetching a bunch of items of various sizes (ideally, but not neccessarily involving slight delays on the server before returning the objexts) turn this test into a apache module so it's easy to use and isn't affected by system variations (and eliminates possible security risks by having the module not access anything on the system) Then get this deployed a bunch of places. David Lang --===============4825678110956408768== Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Content-Disposition: INLINE X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KQmxvYXQgbWFp bGluZyBsaXN0CkJsb2F0QGxpc3RzLmJ1ZmZlcmJsb2F0Lm5ldApodHRwczovL2xpc3RzLmJ1ZmZl cmJsb2F0Lm5ldC9saXN0aW5mby9ibG9hdAo= --===============4825678110956408768==--